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Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by monksy on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:58PM (#27479008)
> If instead he's referring to apps like Bumble where the woman has to make the first move, see above for why some apps choose to operate with that model.

Under that model.. it's common for the first message to be "hi" or ".". Not much has changed.

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by seppin on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:40PM (#27479850)
Most common Bumble message: "Hey how's it going"

Isn't that the exact lack of effort you complain about? The real problem is that wtf are you supposed to say to someone you don't know? Whatever that comes out is meaningless because you have 0 to go on. That's the point. It's a starting point.

Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by MeinBlutIstBlau on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:58PM (#27479530)
What a lot of ignorant men don't realize is that's the woman saying "you start the convo." Not everything is meant to be interpreted literally in dating and relationships. If you believe that, you're doing it wrong.
Re:Fewer young men are in the labor force, more are living a... by monksy on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:34PM (#27479801)
I realize it is. Doesn't mean that I have to tolerate that or accept it. Be a human, start a conversation.