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Re:CPB director: The Netherlands must ban Bitcoin and other ... by dataflow on Friday June 11, 2021 @04:47AM (#27470812)
> No, please don't tax something because it is wasteful or not, but tax something based on how much resources it uses.

"Wasteful" = "using more resources than it genuinely needs". We're saying very, very similar things here. I don't find the difference between them significant enough to be worth arguing about honestly. I'm just suggesting an alternative that I think might be more viable, but if we go with your proposal, that's enough progress to make me happy.

Re:CPB director: The Netherlands must ban Bitcoin and other ... by alistairSH on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:03AM (#27472747)
It's semantics, but in this case, semantics do matter. There's a real difference in result between taxing gasoline per gallon and taxing the ownership of a fuel-inefficient vehicle.

The latter is roughly equivalent to the US's CAFE standards and leads to gaming the system by manufacturers.

The former is much harder to game - either you use the gasoline (and paid the tax at purchase) or you don't. Doesn't matter (to the tax authority) what car you drive - only how much gasoline you burn.

Re:CPB director: The Netherlands must ban Bitcoin and other ... by fsflover on Friday June 11, 2021 @04:56AM (#27470861)
> "using more resources than it genuinely needs"

Are you going to create a commission which decides what a "genuine resource usage" is?

Re:CPB director: The Netherlands must ban Bitcoin and other ... by dataflow on Friday June 11, 2021 @05:01AM (#27470881)
> Are you going to create a commission which decides what a "genuine resource usage" is?

Uhm... if it's necessary, sure? I already suggested a starting point: the current state-of-the-art provides a baseline to compare against. If we need a commission to gauge this, then sure, how about have an agency like the EPA or DoE figure it out. We can even give a good name to products that meet high energy-efficiency standards... like, I don't know, maybe "Energy Star"?

Re:CPB director: The Netherlands must ban Bitcoin and other ... by adrianN on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:12AM (#27473598)
Right, so do we ban cars because bicycles are more efficient?