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Re:San Francisco may be first major US city to hit herd immu... by ghoward on Thursday June 10, 2021 @10:00AM (#27460858)
> People have been wearing protective equipment such as masks for decades, and the negative effects are none.

Have you yourself seen studies that say the negative effects are none? If so, point me to them; I've only found a few, and they all seemed flawed.

> you should be ashamed of yourself for contributing to this state of affairs.

I have no shame in defending true science against propaganda.

[1] is a blog post I wrote about masks and carbon dioxide, where I wrote a model and ran it on various parameters. The net result was always the same: there was half oxygen and half carbon dioxide behind the mask.

Dr. Anthony Fauci knew that masks were ineffective. [2]

The CDC did a study that failed to show that masks were effective. [3]

Another study showed that masks did not work. [4]

There is a review of older papers concerning masks [5] as well as a follow-up. [6] (Though I do not know the political bent of that website; the review may be cherry picked.)

In other words, there is evidence that masks don't work and that there are downsides. If masks reduce oxygen, which makes us more vulnerable to disease, and they don't work, it's possible that the masks actually made things worse, by making us more vulnerable while doing nothing.

That is why I will never feel shame for my "irrational tirade" because it's not a tirade, and it's not irrational.

[1]: https://gavinhoward.com/2020/08/masks-and-carbon-dioxide/

[2]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-said-masks-were-not-...

[3]: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf

[4]: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v...

[5]: https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-...

[6]: https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/still-no-conclusive-evid...

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Re:San Francisco may be first major US city to hit herd immu... by zamalek on Thursday June 10, 2021 @04:39PM (#27465495)
> The net result was always the same: there was half oxygen and half carbon dioxide behind the mask.

Fascinating. Oxygen normally only makes up 21% of breathable air - it would seem that masks are increasing oxygen levels. In addition, where is your null hypothesis test?

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Re:San Francisco may be first major US city to hit herd immu... by ghoward on Thursday June 10, 2021 @09:12PM (#27468171)
The model only tests how oxygen and carbon dioxide replace each other, not nitrogen. So 50% of the 21% is oxygen, the other 50% is carbon dioxide.

Of course, it could be even worse, that carbon dioxide starts replacing the nitrogen behind the mask. More testing needed.

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Re:San Francisco may be first major US city to hit herd immu... by zamalek on Thursday June 10, 2021 @11:15PM (#27468895)
10% CO2 (> 40000ppm) is lethal. Have I been brainwashed to ignore the people dropping dead on the streets?
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Re:San Francisco may be first major US city to hit herd immu... by ghoward on Friday June 11, 2021 @01:50AM (#27469776)
The carbon dioxide is only replaced in the volume behind the mask. If that is not a big volume compared to a full breath (and it isn't), then the carbon dioxide you're breathing in isn't 10%. It's (v_mask * 0.21 * 0.5)/V, where v_mask is the volume behind the mask, and V is the full volume of a breath.
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