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Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by CharlesW on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:37PM (#27454206)
> The choice that people want is the ability to have other App Stores, or direct installation.

I am "people" and I absolutely do not want app developers creating their own silo'd app stores.

The last thing I want to do is download separate app stores for every major app vendor on my phone, to give them all my credit card info, to have per-store standards for warning me about privacy issues, to have different policies and UIs for managing subscriptions, etc. This is a technology nightmare.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by p1necone on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @07:35PM (#27454822)
Android allows sideloading apps and this hasn't happened there - everyone still publishes on the main Android app store too. (except for Fortnite obviously, but that's been removed from the iOS store too so it's not exactly a counter example)

Why do you think it wouldn't work out the same way on Apple devices?

Also if you're concerned about hypothetical "missing out" on certain apps, consider all the developers that already don't release on iOS because of their restrictive practices.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by martimarkov on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:00PM (#27455506)
I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions.

If sideloading is allowed when then malware is also close to get on the phone. Not my phone probably but the average joe, my family members, students, etc.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by p1necone on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:35PM (#27455743)
> I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions.

So... don't use other app stores? Nobody is forcing you to.

> If sideloading is allowed when then malware is also close to get on the phone. Not my phone probably but the average joe, my family members, students, etc.

Average Joe's aren't even going to know that sideloading apps is an option, let alone know how to do it. And if you're worried about grandma/kids doing something silly there's parental controls for this sort of thing. There just needs to be a way for power users to use other apps.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by martimarkov on Thursday June 10, 2021 @05:36AM (#27458759)
Well that’s not true. Let’s just look at game stores. It’s super fragmented because companies want to control everything.

They optimise for profit not end-user experience. On the other hand within the iOS ecosystem the store optimises for the end-user (more or less).

So enabling different stores will create a more fractured ecosystem. Something that hinders my experience. Why would I support this?

I’d only support it if: * All apps from other stores are always in the App Store * All apps still use the in-app payment functionality and not some 3rd party system that I’m not sure steals my data. I’m also okay if the apps are forced to use Apple Pay if they don’t want to use in-app purchase functionality.

With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced.

What is essentially going to happen is to lower the overall security of apps on the iOS platform.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by manigandham on Thursday June 10, 2021 @08:32AM (#27459891)
> "It’s super fragmented"

So what? There's multiple options. That's called choice and competition, which is helping drive new features and better pricing.

> "With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced."

Draconic measures like that are being enforced, which why other app stores are wanted in the first place.

Your entire argument seems to be that other stores are bad because of "fracturing" the market, yet desktop/macos users manage just fine, even with an app store on that platform. You're imagining a challenge that doesn't exist.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by xdennis on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:56PM (#27454413)
Having the ability to install non-Apple-approved applications doesn't remove your ability to install Apple-approved applications.
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by JKCalhoun on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @08:20PM (#27455198)
I wonder though if non-Apple stores will lead to fragmentation. Apps on the App Store will flee and there will be a whole host of app stores. Sort of like Hulu/Netflix/Disney/HBO/etc. with television.

Suddenly the apps you had come to expect on the App Store are not there now.

Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by lolinder on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:24PM (#27455668)
That hasn't happened on Android. Using a third party store (a la F-Droid) or side loading in Android is very much a niche feature used only by the relatively tech savvy. Why would iOS be different?
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by VMtest on Thursday June 10, 2021 @12:03AM (#27456537)
because the arguments from people like the parent comment don't hold
Re:Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give ... by manigandham on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @07:15PM (#27454605)
So… don’t do it.