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Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:17AM (#27434737)
Russia and China would in fact be a better solution as most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities.
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:31AM (#27434913)
> most Westerners are never going to be subject to Russian or Chinese authorities

Coercible locals are a valuable asset. Not sure why countries with zero rule of law would be attractive to someone valuing a principle like privacy.

Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:15AM (#27436279)
I'm not sure what you are trying to say, especially with the "coerciable locals", other than trying to say China and Russia have "zero rule of law".
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by acoard on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:31AM (#27436506)
His point is that foreign states could blackmail you or exert pressure in other ways, even if they aren't gonna extradite and throw you in jail following due process. Thus, Russia/China would have "coercible locals" in western countries.
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @02:53PM (#27439298)
In the US a "coercible local" is given a far less scary descriptor of confidential informant, or state's evidence. There are far more of those than there are "coerced locals" in the service of Russia or China.
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by vkou on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:41AM (#27435069)
Any locals in any country are coercible to their government, if it really wants to.
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by jorblumesea on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @12:55PM (#27437705)
Sure until you visit a geopolitically aligned airport and get detained and propositioned by a foreign intelligence agency. Then you end up spying against your own country because your VPN provider was just a honeypot for a foreign intelligence agency. Blackmail, forced detention, "crimes against the Chinese state", jail without due process or civil rights, who knows. Maybe you didn't even break US law but Chinese or Russian law.

I would never willingly trust a country like Russia or China with my information.

Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @02:51PM (#27439282)
That stuff already happens to people in the West, and people who visit non-Western but Western aligned countries. The fact of the matter is that if you are a Westerner, you are going to spend more time in the Western sphere of influence, of which Russia and China are not a part of.
Re:Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures ... by jorblumesea on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:58AM (#27447881)
I think the West generally respects and understands due process, rule of law and those general ideas. You will likely get a fair trial. Not so for some of the opposition.