Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by evgen on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:35PM
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We are all guessing at how it works, but if I were to try to translate that description I would guess that the first hop is used to anonymize the source address and it relays with an address that provides a region or country (so things like web site language or geo restrictions continue to work) but that the actual destination is encrypted to a key held by the second hop. The second hop passes along the generic IP address as the source, decodes the destination, and makes the connection. Address anonymizer does not know the destination, exit node does not know the source and only sees a regional pool IP address.
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by batuhanicoz on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:46PM
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At least for me geo detection is all over the place. Google thinks I'm in Bulgaria, rest of the ip2geo sites think I'm in SF.
I'm Turkey. You can actually pick if you want a close server or not but no country selection.
It also seems to use CloudFlare's network.
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by ksec on Monday June 07, 2021 @10:04PM
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>It also seems to use CloudFlare's network.
So basically Cloudflare Warp+?
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by ShinyNewFeature on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:02PM
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It's a 2-hop TOR.
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by gentleman11 on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:23PM
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Tor fundamentally doesn’t work unless it’s 3 hops though, or am I mistaken? The anonymity comes from the middle-man node? That’s why I said it seems a bit like a VPN because you have to trust a server to not log your actions
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by evgen on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:30PM
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I don't think there is anything magic about three hops. You need at least two so that no single node knows both the source and destination. With a third node you are able to isolate the first and last hop from each other to make it more difficult for collusion, but needing a third hop is probably outside the threat model for most people. With Tor what is usually more important is making sure the nodes span different providers and jurisdictions.
Re:Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS...
by ShinyNewFeature on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:29PM
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I do not think Tor necessarily requires 3 hops. See https://tor.stackexchange.com/a/497. It's just that 3 hops provide significant incremental benefit over 2 hops.
This sounds a little like a VPN but also like tor. I don’t really understand what it’s saying