Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity crisis

Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity... by wolverine876 on Monday June 07, 2021 @02:49PM (#27426496)

> We should absolutely act now to ensure their right, including their free speech rights both now and into the future.

Nice to hear, but how do you plan to do it? The rest of your comment ignores the problem, which is what has happened for generations.

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Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity... by simonh on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:56AM (#27432046)

I'm not ignoring the many problems marginalised groups face, I am simply addressing the current topic of conversation, free speech. Furthermore the ACLU isn't ignoring them, they have many excellent programs devoted to those issues.

Talking about X doesn't imply ignoring Y, and I object to the blatantly hostile and manipulative language.

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Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity... by wolverine876 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @06:41PM (#27442044)

I don't see anything hostile or manipulative, but apologies if it seems that way.

> I'm not ignoring the many problems marginalised groups face, I am simply addressing the current topic of conversation,

That is an example of my point and (in my understanding) the point of the new 'movement' in the ACLU: Free speech is always the topic, and has been for generations, and the other civil rights of marginalized people are never the topic - or not enough to motivate anyone to solve the problems.

A sort of dramatic hypothesis: Free speech affects the people who sit at the table, so that's what they see and what they care about. The marginalized get table scraps.

I actually support the ACLU's 'old' stance on free speech, but that's not the topic of conversation IMHO.

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