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Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by maxerickson on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:49AM (#27421063)
The DRM in these tractors doesn't really depend on any IP laws.

There's probably some restriction on reverse engineering it, but for a relatively low volume market with difficult to manufacture hardware parts, there's not going to be all that much interest in overcoming DRM even if there weren't laws.

Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by salamandersauce on Monday June 07, 2021 @07:08AM (#27421184)
DMCA. Breaking even the shittiest DRM is illegal. This of course kills incentives to break DRM from the commercial side as nobody can make any money off it without getting sued. Otherwise I imagine some 3rd party part manufacturer would attempt it.
Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by saurik on Monday June 07, 2021 @08:12AM (#27421615)
Even if it weren't illegal, we are rapidly entering an era where it won't be practical anyway: I work directly on these issues--participating in the DMCA exemption process every cycle and serving as a witness during the hearings--and the whole process just feels kind of dumb knowing that "sure, so let's say it is legal to jailbreak your tractor: they still have to make a mistake in a world where bootloaders are becoming increasingly reliable" :(.
Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by bluGill on Monday June 07, 2021 @09:04AM (#27422054)
The DMCA is the least of your worries. The EPA has figured out that the only only reason people actually want to update software on their tractors is to turn off emissions controls.
Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by mnouquet on Monday June 07, 2021 @01:21PM (#27425244)
Emission control suit of requirements (both hardware & software) make these tractors failure more likely. Eg. from a youtube farmer in Sask, Ca., his NH tractor wiring harness failed because highly corrosive DEF was puked all over it. Wiring hardness is only needed to fine tune injection pump & the pletora of sensors because of regulations, and DEF is only needed because of regulations.

All of this decrease the useful lifetime of equipment.

And no, all of this is not required, a trucked was able to pass California regulations with an old pre-EPA-regulations diesel engine, but the tolerances are a lot tighter (ie. forget about that chinesium oil pump with a couple thousands too much shaft end play), maintenance is a lot trickier...

Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by olyjohn on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:17PM (#27427920)
Reminds me of when Honda designed and installed CVCC cylinder heads on a Chevy 350, and were able to get those engines to pass the 70s emissions standards without a catalytic converter. Instead the EPA ruled that all cars must have a catalytic converter, even if you could figure out other ways to pass emissions. Must have taken a lot of pressure off of the US automakers at the time when smarter, smaller imports were starting to gain popularity.
Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by LgWoodenBadger on Monday June 07, 2021 @09:55AM (#27422634)
Manufacturers of higher-powered diesel tractors have had to introduce features to allow for regen cycles to be postponed, so I wouldn’t be surprised at all
Re:Farmers Deserve the Right to Repair Their Tractors by mnouquet on Monday June 07, 2021 @01:22PM (#27425259)
noteworthy facts: regen is only required because of EPA regulations.