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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by hedora on Sunday June 06, 2021 @05:15PM (#27416406)
If you have the chance to visit China, I suggest doing so. They’ve already converted most personal vehicles to electric. Cars aren’t nearly as popular as scooters, rickshaws, etc., which cost $100s (or maybe low $1000’s) in US dollars, new.

At that price point, consumables for an internal combustion engine start to be a significant fraction of the vehicle cost.

Lithium batteries are hardly only a plaything for the rich.

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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by dredmorbius on Sunday June 06, 2021 @07:01PM (#27417163)
EV + PHEV vehicle marketshare in China in 2019 (most recent year with data) remains under 5%, though it's doubled in 2 years.

China is far from majority-EV quantitatively, and at least four doublings (8 years) from a 50% share in new vehicles temporally.

That's actually excellent progress. But it's nowhere near your claim.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1050111/china-electric-c...

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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by londons_explore on Monday June 07, 2021 @02:52AM (#27419790)
I think OP is saying a lot of 'cars' in China wouldn't fall under that definition of a car, so aren't in the stats...
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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @04:33AM (#27420339)
If so, that was stated quite unclearly.

Though yes, the thought occurred after I'd posted.

Per capita car ownership might help tease that out (along with sales of car substitutes).

US car ownership is 804 vehicles per 1,000. In China it's 204 vehicles/1,000 pop.

Wikipedia's Transport in China page could use some updating, but also fails to support OP's claims:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_China#Road

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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by hedora on Monday June 07, 2021 @10:25AM (#27422976)
According to that article, total car ownership in 2003 was equal to one year of sales of motorized bikes.
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Re:Scientists develop ‘cheap and easy’ method to extract lit... by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @01:44PM (#27425590)
And what fraction of motorised bikes are electric?

Again, your original claim doesn't stand to any evidence I've found.

You've presented none yourself.

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