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Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by throwaway55439 on Friday June 04, 2021 @11:36PM (#27401906)
As a POC, I appreciate these woke people, even though some of their actions may be heavy handed. I wish there were more of them when I was growing up and being bullied by real bigots.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by lelanthran on Saturday June 05, 2021 @02:28AM (#27402727)
> As a POC, I appreciate these woke people, even though some of their actions may be heavy handed. I wish there were more of them when I was growing up and being bullied by real bigots.

Counterpoint: As a non-white, oppressed person who grew up in Apartheid South Africa, these 'Woke' people resemble the Apartheid rulers way too much for my liking[1].

As bad as the situation is, as presented by BLM for blacks in America now and in the recent past, it's nowhere near as bad as having laws on the books, that courts had to enforce, that made you less of a human than white people.

[1] The animals looked from Pig to Man, and Man to Pig, and they could not tell the difference, roughly paraphrased from Orwell.

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by balthigor on Saturday June 05, 2021 @03:06AM (#27402893)
I live in South Africa. DeGroot and his ilk were nothing like "woke". They were monsters that dehumanized citizens and murdered with impunity. You should know that, which makes your comment suspect.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by lelanthran on Saturday June 05, 2021 @03:28AM (#27402994)
I don't think you are arguing in good faith.

> I live in South Africa. DeGroot and his ilk were nothing like "woke". They were monsters that dehumanized citizens and murdered with impunity. You should know that, which makes your comment suspect.

But I do know that they dehumanised citizens, because I specifically said:

> it's nowhere near as bad as having laws on the books, that courts had to enforce, that made you less of a human than white people.

Why did you ignore that? Is there something about that comment that makes it hard to read, or hard to understand?

I never claimed that the Woke followers were murdering others with impunity, I said that I see a resemblance between them and the apartheid rulers. I never specified what the resemblance was, but since you appear to assume that "murder" was the resemblance, let me clarify that I did not intend to claim that the Woke followers were murdering people.

The resemblance I see is the dehumanisation of non-Woke followers (not dehumanisation of just the Woke-opposed, but of anyone who may even be neutral).

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by faceplanted on Monday June 07, 2021 @05:06AM (#27420504)
If you compare people to apartheid murderers and _don't_ specify how you mean, you can't exactly claim he's jumping down _your_ throat taking that the wrong way.

"Oh, these leftists seem like Adolf Hitler"

"Fuck you"

"Hey, hey, I didn't specify _how_ they're like Hitler, I just meant how he dehumanises people, not _any_ of the things almost everyone in the world knows him for"

This is why I hate the anti-woke, just incredible levels of smug, trolling styles of communication, constantly saying inflammatory bullshit and then pulling back and acting "attacked" and calling people "close-minded" for not asking you to elaborate on obvious "veiled" insults and bile.

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by EliRivers on Saturday June 05, 2021 @08:09AM (#27404220)
these 'Woke' people resemble the Apartheid rulers way too much for my liking[1].

How much do they resemble the Apartheid rulers? They look quite different to me. When I think of the Apartheid rulers, the key defining features I think of are people operating a state that actively dehumanises large groups of people and sentences them to life as second-class citizens lacking rights and opportunities, and who are made to fear violence of the state, and so on.

These woke people seem quite different to that. So when you say they're too similar for your liking, how similar is that? In what ways, that you don't like, are they similar?

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by yakshaving_jgt on Saturday June 05, 2021 @01:15AM (#27402423)
I am genuinely sorry to hear you went through that, and I’m glad to hear — if I’ve interpreted you correctly — that some woke people provided you their support. However, I don’t believe disciples of the woke ideology have a monopoly on opposition to bullying, and I think they are often bullies themselves. Furthermore, it appears that woke ideologues are not internally consistent with their opposition to racism. Case in point: the recent demotion of Google diversity head for anti-semitism.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by bjourne on Saturday June 05, 2021 @09:59AM (#27405090)
> Case in point: the recent demotion of Google diversity head for anti-semitism.

Who is the "woke" party in this case?

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by yakshaving_jgt on Thursday June 10, 2021 @03:04AM (#27457758)
I am arguing that Bobb is the woke party in this case, but that doesn't preclude Google from also being under the influence of woke ideologues. The woke are not beyond eating their own. It's somewhat tautological — the company would need some woke sympathy for Bobb to be installed in that particular position of power in the first place. Bobb forced Google into an untenable position which is why they had to make the move. It is perhaps also telling that he was not fired. Would a white, non-woke person have enjoyed the same leniency? Difficult to say without seeing more data, but I remain sceptic for now.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by golergka on Saturday June 05, 2021 @02:39AM (#27402767)
I was bullied and beaten for being "the jewish kid" when I was growing up. I'm completely sure that those "woke people" would have joined the bullies then. They're exactly the kind of people who enjoy ganging up on someone and feel their superiority.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by tolbish on Saturday June 05, 2021 @06:59AM (#27403915)
I hope the irony of what you said does not escape you.
Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by ping_pong on Saturday June 05, 2021 @03:27AM (#27402992)
These days, the woke people would beat you up for supporting Israelis over Palestinians.
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Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by wernercd on Saturday June 05, 2021 @03:09AM (#27402905)
The problem isn't "woke college kids"... it's intolerance way PAST the point of intolerance. Racism in the name of fighting racism. Hate in the name of love.

It's the religious fervor by the Woke Crusaders who are willing to burn, pillage, destroy, kill in the name of "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion" - and destroying justice, REAL equality and our collective future.

Re:Medium sees employee exits after CEO publishes ‘culture m... by Der_Einzige on Saturday June 05, 2021 @04:07AM (#27403181)
They're downvoting you because you're correct. Ignore it and know that you are right about this point.