News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by Hamuko on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:04AM (#27382413)
>Concorde had a bit of bad timing. It was released during the worst crisis of aviation

It doesn't feel like Boom has the timing on its side either. Feels like we're still in a massive aviation crisis and I'm not sure how long it's gonna take before things look good for the industry.

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by toomuchtodo on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:10AM (#27382501)
If Boom succeeds, we'll get less expensive supersonic travel (that is going to compete against something ballistic like Starship). If Boom fails, someone will buy the tech and still use the jigs, tooling, and IP for something in the aerospace domain (hopefully). Either way, Boom folks get to work on something they enjoy and is meaningful to them (hopefully), and we all get any benefit (hopefully) from their time grinding on aerodynamics, fluid dynamics, and material science problems.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by tiborsaas on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:40AM (#27383000)
If Boom fails, it will be a glorious day for tech journalists to write the punniest headline.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by wussboy on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:49AM (#27383158)
I admire your restraint.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by fnord77 on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:15AM (#27382565)
did anyone buy the jigs, tooling, etc. for the concorde?
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by bentsku on Thursday June 03, 2021 @12:03PM (#27383368)
Airbus used the new tech for their next generations of plane I believe. I guess the fly-by-wire has been used for the A320 soon after. ABS brakes, a more resistant steel alloy, there is this list in French for some of the innovation made for the Concorde and used elsewhere afterward.

http://www.club-concorde.org/ssc/ret_tech-fr.htm

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by toomuchtodo on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:18AM (#27382620)
Different times. Communications and financing are a different beast today. One can reach out to folks they'd never have interacted with in the old days (Twitter, for example). Someone with experience could put together 7 digit financing in a few days, 8 digit financing in weeks, maybe more.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by shakezula on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:33AM (#27382895)
This is one of the most interesting features (or bugs, depending who you ask) about the current time we live in. We can organize massive funding and technological efforts like this over morning coffee and Twitter banter.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by dehrmann on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:21AM (#27382659)
I think Airbus owned them outright.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by cedilla on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:45AM (#27383089)
Airbus pledged to supply to tools and spare parts for Concorde until the late 2000s, so yes.

(Of course they stopped supplying them in 2003 when the service was retired after the crash).

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by mrandish on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:21AM (#27382660)
> Feels like we're still in a massive aviation crisis

Commercial aviation tends to be a cyclical industry so there will always be a crisis somewhere on the horizon. Airlines like United are trying to broaden their offerings so that they can better maintain margins in a downturn. Some "Time is Money" expense account travelers will always have money to spend on a premium product like getting there twice as fast.

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by standardUser on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:10AM (#27382488)
In what way is there a crisis? The major US carriers keep expanding. keep adding new routes, buying more places, etc. Air travel was at an all time high before the pandemic and is likely to rebound and hit new records in coming years.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by londons_explore on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:17AM (#27382586)
No way. Commercial air travel is ready for a 10 year slowdown.

The main profit center for commercial air travel was businessmen going places, not too concerned how much flights would cost.

Now business meetings happen by video conference. Flying round the world for a 3 hour meeting will never be big again.

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by rootusrootus on Thursday June 03, 2021 @01:23PM (#27384492)
TBH, I fully expect that by the end of this year our company will resume sending management on two-week excursions every six months to Hyderabad.

Now we know how to leverage video conferencing for meetings, and we are convinced more than ever of the limitations given current technology.

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by ghaff on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:40AM (#27382996)
In fairness, most business travel is not flying around the world for a 3 hour meeting. I do expect events, roadshows, series of customer meetings, etc. to come back--albeit probably gradually and perhaps not reaching prior levels.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by standardUser on Thursday June 03, 2021 @12:33PM (#27383785)
"Commercial air travel is ready for a 10 year slowdown."

You're not really offering any evidence, just speculation. The actions of the major airlines suggest an expansion, not a retraction.

Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by londons_explore on Thursday June 03, 2021 @12:58PM (#27384153)
Are they expanding... Or are they switching towards more fuel efficient planes with the expectation that it won't be long before countries start restricting flights that produce too much CO2?
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by bluGill on Thursday June 03, 2021 @01:49PM (#27384899)
Airplanes have a lifespan. Janky "third world" countries will let you fly a plane that should have been scrapped, but the big airlines in major countries scrap their old planes at the end of life to ensure flying is safe. Getting more fuel efficient planes is a side effect (and with the cost of fuel one they are excited to get)
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by ulfw on Thursday June 03, 2021 @08:39PM (#27389172)
"never again" are such big words. Let's not assume short to mid-term shocks will automatically translate into long-term changes.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by gpm on Thursday June 03, 2021 @01:55PM (#27384996)
On the flip side Boeing seems to be in the middle of imploding, the ideal time for a new player to come in.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by nopzor on Thursday June 03, 2021 @06:04PM (#27388005)
i agree with the gist of your comment, but the us government will never allow boeing to truly implode.
Re:United Airlines will buy 15 planes from Boom Supersonic by _ph_ on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:39AM (#27382983)
But if we are, as I hope, on the peak of the crisis, and Boom wants to come to marked towards the end of the decade, it could be there exactly at the time the airline industry is in the next boom.