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Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by femiagbabiaka on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @06:37PM (#27374917)
Do you have any sources I can read through on this? I'm very interested to hear that this is the case.
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by abrahamepton on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:38PM (#27375357)
There's a great book on ~roughly this topic - Ghettoside, by Jill Leovy. The thesis is that police in some cities (her work is in LA, but I lived in Chicago for a while and the idea transfers seamlessly) do an abysmal job of solving homicides.

That has all sorts of knock-on effects: people close to a murder victim lose the sense that the state will do something about their loss, so they take the matter into their own hands; people who commit homicide are a tiny minority but if they're not apprehended, they can keep committing homicides, which makes a broader society feel less safe; people sense that the state, their city, their neighbors, etc don't care about them because if the homicide was of someone in a richer neighborhood, it would be more likely to be solved; etc. Been a while since I read it so I'm forgetting a lot.

I think this goes some way towards explaining why people in neighborhoods where lots of violent crime is committed have such ambivalent feelings about the police - they are at once underpoliced (police don't solve major crimes in their neighborhood) and overpoliced (police bust people for all kinds of small-time stuff, which has devastating long-term consequences).

At the same time as all of the above, it's also true that it's basically never been safer to live in a big American city (ok ok, at least since like the 1960s - before then the picture gets significantly more complicated). So it's safer than ever, but big crimes don't get prosecuted or solved, unless they happen in the "right" neighborhoods. The solution therefore isn't more of the same police; maybe it's more policing but the policing itself needs to change.

Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by femiagbabiaka on Friday June 04, 2021 @12:45AM (#27390661)
This has already been a fantastic read: thank you!!
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by waiseristy on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:01PM (#27375082)
Not a read, but this feature from KOMO goes over the Seattle situation pretty well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw

Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by abrahamepton on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:38PM (#27375358)
That piece, and KOMO's larger project, are toxic right-wing propaganda. Please don't consider that a reliable source.
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by hik on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:44PM (#27375404)
I don't think calling it propaganda is quite right. "Muckraking" is probably more accurate.
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by abrahamepton on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @07:48PM (#27375423)
Muckraking implies at least a casual desire to stick to the facts, which is entirely absent from Sinclair-owned stations.
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by kyleblarson on Thursday June 03, 2021 @10:38AM (#27382050)
Have you walked through Pioneer Square or down Third Avenue in Seattle recently?
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by abrahamepton on Thursday June 03, 2021 @12:34PM (#27383802)
Yep, I have!

Homelessness is a profound and society-wide problem, with no easy answers unless you consider "spend way more money, build way more housing" an easy answer (which I do).

Until we do those things, it should be no surprise that a region with skyrocketing rents has a housing crisis, and that will present itself in myriad unpleasant ways.

Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by waiseristy on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @10:52PM (#27376731)
I don't even want to begin to engage upon what you purport KOMO to be, because I don't really care... But the people and lives that video shows are real. Do you have left-wing friendly media pieces to balance it out? This is not something that is typically portrayed positively in media in Seattle, so it's not easy to find good news
Re:King County, WA bans facial recognition software by waiseristy on Thursday June 03, 2021 @03:29PM (#27386186)
You do you HN. Downvote the uncomfortable opinions! That'll surely help everyone