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Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by pjmlp on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:11PM (#27358826)
As first generation out of Portuguese dictatorship, this is unfortunately how it starts.

When everyone realises their mistake there is no turning back for several years to come.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:22PM (#27359026)
Also Venezuela.
Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by failwhaleshark on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:40PM (#27359319)
Juan Guaidó wasn't elected. He and his US backers keep shouting "no, I'm the president" and "yes you are" respectively doesn't make it so. It's gangster capitalism Monroe doctrine to install another Pinochet or Branco.

The US calls Maduro a "dictator" despite being elected. The reason the US does is simple: money (which uses US ideological politics as a means-to-an-end), since he specifically stated his purpose after the death of Chávez: "Compatriots, I am not here out of personal ambition, out of vanity, or because my surname Maduro is a part of the rancid oligarchy of this country. I am not here because I represent financial groups, neither of the oligarchy nor of American imperialism ... I am not here to protect mafias nor groups nor factions. IOW, because he wouldn't sell-out his own people or his own country, so he's been marked for death/removal, his people marked for sanctions, and Fox News leads the charge smearing the man and the country to make some vampiric rich Americans more money.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:36PM (#27360106)
Venezuela is a dictatorship, not because Chavez wasn't elected, but because once elected, he put his finger more and more on the scales of the elections. He arrested opposition leaders so that they couldn't run effective campaigns. When Chavez died and Maduro came to power, he did more of the same, destroying the independence of the judiciary, and shutting down the opposition legislature.

Venezuela is a dictatorship whether or not Guaido won the last election. It's a dictatorship because the government took enough steps that it was impossible for anyone but Maduro to win.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:46PM (#27359398)
I didn't say anything about Guaidó.

I stated that Venzuala was another example where "It is similar I think to the situation in the US where poor people will sometimes vote against their financial interests to support an identity."

In Venezuala's case: poor people would rather support unsustainable state subsidies and industries, at the long term cost of running their economy and currency into the ground.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by failwhaleshark on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:29PM (#27359142)
Godwin's law exception: Hitler and Mussolini were voted-in.

Masses of gullible idiots take much longer to realize (if ever because of ego protection) it was a bad idea after-the-fact, while students of history saw it coming. This is why direct "democracy" is a terrible idea. Governance by popularity is stupid. Ask Socrates.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by rich_sasha on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:29PM (#27360009)
Well, Hitler never won an election. He was thought to be a convenient idiot by his coalition partners, serious politicians.

I’ll just leave that thought hanging there.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by failwhaleshark on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @07:42PM (#27362896)
That's true. I just realized everything I knew was a lie. :D

NSDAP goose-stepped into office without winning a plurality of votes, almost like what happens in other countries with Electoral Colleges.

Re:Belarus has temporarily banned most of its citizens from ... by deepsun on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:54AM (#27368696)
Actually, Hitler was never voted in. His party never got majority, they took the power in non-democratic ways.