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Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by macavity23 on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @09:00AM (#2733664)
"A large proportion of the customers are small and medium-sized businesses"

A present-day startup would have to be insane to spend cash on installed office software, when GApps and other cloud-based offerings offer features for free that cost $$$ and take serious configuration effort to get working with MS Office, such as collaboration/sharing (Sharepoint! Ugh!)

And once a company is using a browser-based office suite, I can't see them migrating to MS Office as they grow, except for some specialised tasks, such as large-scale financial modelling in Excel.

Word is massive overkill for intra-company documents, and I honestly prefer http://prezi.com to Powerpoint for presentations (though Keynote is still top of the heap IMHO).

I'd be interested in seeing a web-based equivalent of MS Access - super easy database creation and hosting. Anyone got any links?

It all spells trouble for MS in the medium term, I would say.

Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by synnik on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @11:25AM (#2734294)
Agreed.

My startup is very atypical for HN (Renewable energy, so we do multi-million dollar research projects, deploy equipment that costs from 2-100 million, and our seed round is looking like we are going to close at about 150 million dollars.)

Despite the vast difference in scale between what I do and what most startups on this board do, I'm still looking to run the IT side of the business the same - cloud-based, using the latest tools that this crowd and others deploy, running a lean shop, etc.

I am still deciding whether Google is the right answer, or box.net or Podio, or others... But we definitely will not be installing Microsoft's solutions.

Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by inam on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @09:57AM (#2733896)
"It all spells trouble for MS in the medium term"

Only if Google increases their level of support. I work at a large business and we spoke with both Google and Microsoft. Though I'm a Google fanboy, I'll admit that the level of support from Microsoft is currently much better than Google. Microsoft's cost of implementation was also lower.

Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by doron on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @10:08AM (#2733954)
The larger the business gets the more of a concern bandwidth becomes. All web based applications suffer from this problem, the very high cost of bandwidth in the US.

Without very competitive high bandwidth costs, i just don't see how business software, much less, enterprise software, could ever really be worth the investment on the web.

Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by BvS on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @10:14AM (#2733977)
Could you elaborate how/why Microsoft's implementation was cheaper?
Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by inam on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @10:38AM (#2734076)
Perhaps I should have said I work for a large educational institution. Microsoft was free and Google was going to cost around $200k.
Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by ditojim on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @11:40AM (#2734374)
Google Apps for EDU is free.
Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by BvS on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @11:52AM (#2734438)
That's what I thought or are the 200k for training people who have been used to MS Office etc.?
Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by arvindn on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @11:15AM (#2734245)
>> I'd be interested in seeing a web-based equivalent of MS Access - super easy database creation and hosting. Anyone got any links?

Tried Zoho Creator (http://www.zoho.com/creator) and its reporting partner Zoho Reports (http://reports.zoho.com)?

Disclaimer: I work for Zoho

Re:Google Apps attracts 3,000 new businesses a day, search g... by macavity23 on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @12:10PM (#2734524)
Looks cool, thanks!