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Re:QUIC is now RFC 9000 by fouric on Friday May 28, 2021 @01:00PM (#27317823)
> NAT is literally the only thing stopping every single personal device in the world from being hacked.

This is so wrong that it must be satire. NAT provides the very most basic protection possible, easily replicated (and surpassed) by every firewall that comes stock with every modern OS, and is completely insufficient (and not even necessary) to prevent personal devices being hacked.

Re:QUIC is now RFC 9000 by ben0x539 on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:16PM (#27322317)
I'll buy this for firewalls in end-user routers, but if you put the firewall on the personal device it's gonna get disabled the first time it supposedly interferes with a videogame or a movie stream or whatever. :(
Re:QUIC is now RFC 9000 by jjoonathan on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:36PM (#27322839)
NAT enables dogshit endpoint security, yes, but that's the problem. Without NAT as a crutch, endpoint firewalls and service security wouldn't suck. Compared to other feats of security engineering the industry has undertaken in order to make centralized cloud services happen, namely JavaScript and the ability to safely run untrusted code from the nastiest corners of the internet at high performance, this would be downright trivial. It just never happened because we had NAT.