Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5

Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by pintxo on Friday May 28, 2021 @07:42AM (#27314173)

Most people probably had never control over their local desktop system.

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by swiley on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:58AM (#27315375)

Pre Windows 10 they had way more control than they do with phones. Microsoft actually respected user intentions to some degree by comparison.

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by pintxo on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:54AM (#27316048)

It's more that a lot of people seem to have zero mental model about how the file system in their computer works (files, folders, paths, ...). Let alone their computer as a whole.

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by goldenkey on Friday May 28, 2021 @10:43AM (#27315908)

Windows 10 telemetry and whatnot can all be turned off. It's still the desktop OS it always was, just with some extra crapola (Cortana) that iOS millennials expect. At least Windows isn't sending a hash of every file I open to their servers like Apple is...

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by swiley on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:01PM (#27317034)

I have a computer science degree, and have gone through periods where I've maintained custom Linux distros built from scratch for myself. I'm not able to keep up with all of the newly discovered (and subsequently disabled) methods for disabling all of the online services in windows 10.

I didn't mention OSX because I didn't want to be overly verbose but yeah any non-free OS at this point has pretty much no respect at all for privacy or user freedom.

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by goldenkey on Sunday May 30, 2021 @07:46AM (#27332555)

I have a master degree in CS. There's really not much of a learning curve to disabling telemetry on Windows or OSX. It requires some labor, but so does any kind of technological upkeep.

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by toast0 on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:59AM (#27317002)

I think that's not every file, but every executable, right? And doesn't Microsoft do that and call it SmartScreen?

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by forgingahead on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:41PM (#27317576)

At least Windows isn't sending a hash of every file I open to their servers like Apple is.

Wait, what is Apple doing? Which Apple OS is sending a hash of every file that is opened? And can this be disabled?

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by _jal on Friday May 28, 2021 @01:54PM (#27318470)

It is a hash of executables, not files. It does include shell scripts.

The intent seems to be malware prevention, but yes, the implementation is terrible from a privacy perspective. Far better would be a local bloom filter or similar.

But the bit about Windows being more respectful of privacy is not correct, or at least substantially more complicated. For instance, if you run 'full' telemetry, Microsoft can, in fact, pull your documents from your machine and execute things on it remotely, something I've seen no indication Apple does.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wi...

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Re:Extracting Data from an Old iOS App Broken by iOS 14.5 by ValentineC on Friday May 28, 2021 @01:16PM (#27318042)

It's because of app notarisation. Here's one of the writeups on it: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.htm...

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