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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by jacquesm on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:28PM (#27307104)
The 'good' news is that nature is mostly self-regulating. It will be more than happy to cull our numbers until we reach something approaching sustainability (or much lower than that). Climate change per se won't kill you, but other humans competing for the same space or resource most certainly will and that's how it has been since forever.

The last couple of hundred years are an anomaly but this exponential increase simply can not go on without running headlong into some kind of wall, be it our effect on the environment, resource starvation, lack of space (in a way also a resource) and so on.

Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by mrtksn on Thursday May 27, 2021 @04:05PM (#27307603)
>nature is mostly self-regulating

The problem with this is that the nature can stay hostile for much longer than humans can stay alive. We literally built a civilisation on top of the corpses of creatures that survived much longer than we ever walked on the earth upright.

I am sure that in some very distant feature the archaeologist and biologist of some species will have a boon on our remains, I don't really doubt that, but the problem is that we are facing huge opportunity for de dinosaur experience.

Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by CompMan411 on Thursday May 27, 2021 @05:48PM (#27308985)
> The problem with this is that the nature can stay hostile for much longer than humans can stay alive.

Seems to me, as a species we are smart enough to recognize we are all playing guided by game theory, we should be smart enough to step outside of game theory's limitations for mass negotiations. We should able to work within natures limits by group bargaining toward more environmental approaches. Yet we can't. Not even a little. We aren't even close. This has been a well known issue for decades, and nothing, nothing even close to what is needed has been done. Capitalism failed us, democracy failed us, the US failed us, our parents and our children failed us. Not even close to a passing grade.

I imagine I'm not going to make many friends for saying this, but... This was a test. We failed. Why should humans get to survive to the next round? Why are we so sure we are good? All I see is distractions, destruction, pollution and consumption... maybe that's on me cause I had a bad day... We destroyed the planet, killed the majority of insects, and the majority of vertebrates, toxified all the lakes and streams, over fished the oceans then dumped DDT, PCBs, VX nerve agent, and radioactive waste. We aren't done. We keep going. More more more. Now other countries are just coming on the scene and they want some polluting rights too.

Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by wiz21c on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:38PM (#27307228)
the question is : will it cull all species proportionally or will it cull a few species completely (including us)...
Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by jacquesm on Thursday May 27, 2021 @03:48PM (#27307365)
That's a difficult to answer question but you can take - small - comfort in the fact that humans as a species are incredibly adaptable and have managed to eke out a living where many other species failed.

To balance that out: our 'modern' way of living is pretty fragile and unless our numbers go down most likely completely unsustainable over millennia at numbers > a few billion unless we manage to move off-planet.