World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Years

Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by notJim on Thursday May 27, 2021 @02:00PM (#27306078)

I'm a socialist, but I hate this meme on the left. We simply do not have time to build socialism before tackling climate change, especially with the recent crushing defeats the left has suffered in Western countries. We have to do this under capitalism, or we will not be able to do it at all.

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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by gmadsen on Thursday May 27, 2021 @02:19PM (#27306290)

That isnt the only alternative. A state run free market like china would actually be really useful for this global problem, if of course climate change was the priority for the government.

lack of personal freedom and ease of abuse probably make this a terrible choice, but it would without a doubt be better for climate change than currently

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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by indymike on Thursday May 27, 2021 @04:00PM (#27307521)

> A state run free market like china would actually be really useful for this global problem, if of course climate change was the priority for the government.

The cure suggested here is worse than the disease.

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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by gmadsen on Thursday May 27, 2021 @04:22PM (#27307880)

so my second sentence?

And I'm not entirely sure. Is authoritarian rule worse than billions starving to death, with collapse of the ecosystem?

All the enlightenment ideas fall apart when we actually reach the limit of the earths resources, and can potentially cause our own extinction along with the rest of the animal kingdom

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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by ethbr0 on Friday May 28, 2021 @08:37AM (#27314641)

The balance is between (a) effectively addressing an issue & (b) empowering government and risking it abuse its power.

Most long-lived democracies appear to have optimized to mitigate the risk of the second, over the long run, but at the cost of limiting the first.

One thinks the Roman Republic had a pretty good thing going politically... but declaring a temporary dictator in times of crisis only worked until it didn't.

Still, 475 years was a pretty good run.

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Re:World Now Likely to Hit Watershed 1.5 °C Rise in Next 5 Y... by throwaway09223 on Thursday May 27, 2021 @02:10PM (#27306197)

Well, that and the fact that socialist states universally have worse outcome than capitalist states in this regard.

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