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Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by riffic on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:20PM (#27280330)
But will it be extinct in 500/5000/50,000 years?

There's an incredible arrogance in this thread of man's capabilities over natures. People better check themselves.

Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by ceilingcorner on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:24PM (#27280385)
I don’t think cloning animals is some kind of godlike technological power. It’s clearly something humans are already capable of doing to some extent.

Projected 500-1000-5000 years into the future, it doesn’t seem arrogant to me to assume we will be able to clone extinct animals en masse.

Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @04:32PM (#27282233)
Let me get this straight: climate change models predict conditions likely to lead to the collapse of civilization and you say "the map is not the territory, no need to be alarmed", but your extrapolation of our cloning capability should totally be respected?
Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by ceilingcorner on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @05:13PM (#27282748)
I didn’t say there was no need to be alarmed, I said civilization isn’t going to collapse.

These also aren’t the same things. Cloning is a technology that will likely continue to be more and more possible. It’s not really a question of if, but when. Even then it was just a creative suggestion.

Modeling civilizations responses to climate change is basically science fiction. Yes, bad stuff will happen. No, you can’t predict that society will collapse because of it.

Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by riffic on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:31PM (#27280466)
projecting 5000-50,000 years into the future and failing to see humanity's extremely likely extinction based on current trends is the arrogance.
Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by ceilingcorner on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:36PM (#27280536)
No, it isn’t, it’s being realistic. Human beings aren’t going extinct because of climate change, nuclear weapons, or anything else. Some people would survive and they would inevitably repopulate.
Re:Biodiversity decline will require millions of years to re... by crispyporkbites on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:50PM (#27280736)
I think the unbounded optimism / arrogance is that life as is will continue indefinitely, or just get better and better.

That might happen, but climate change is one of very few things that will stop it (others being nuclear war, asteroid strikes, volcanic eruptions, solar flares and other disease)