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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by geomark on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @12:26AM (#27272590)
Is monogamy in humans the result of evolutionary pressures or a social construct to serve other purposes? With the right social indoctrination the majority might not care at all about monogamy, even find it strange and undesirable, ala Brave New World.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by rorykoehler on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @12:34AM (#27272629)
I think I care about the well-being of my family more than a cheap thrill.... by many orders of magnitude.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by geomark on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @01:28AM (#27272965)
What if you don't have a family? In Brave New World there are no families. Technology plus social indoctrination have eliminated the need and desire for them.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by a2tech on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @07:57AM (#27275752)
A partner, of both the sexual and emotional variety, is far more satisfying than any random sexual hookup. Its the bedrock foundation of my life. Some sort of short lived satisfaction from hooking up with a random doesn't hold a candle to what we have. I'm not religious, we don't have kids, and we've been together for almost 20 years.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by rorykoehler on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @01:44AM (#27273132)
That's a hard pass from me. I rather we didn't use Brave New World and 1984 as guides on how to build the future.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by geomark on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:29AM (#27273486)
Same for me. But of course that is because we have been conditioned to feel that way, isn't it?
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by rorykoehler on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @03:56AM (#27274113)
It's more nature than nurture. Babies died in a Romanian orphanage because they were only fed and diaper changed and not held for example. I can't find the source right now but I did find this https://www.livescience.com/21778-early-neglect-alters-kids-...
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by elbear on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @03:41AM (#27274010)
Sure, but that's not something people feel comfortable hearing, judging by your downvotes.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by rorykoehler on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @04:03AM (#27274171)
It's just not true. We're not robots.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by legostormtroopr on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:04AM (#27273285)
You know monogamy and pair-bonding are observed in many species? Several species of apes, monkeys, birds and fish have been observed to implement life-long pair bonding.

From a cold, logical perspective there are certainly evolutionary benefits to having a pair-bond not least of which is future certainty of care, for yourself and your joint offspring.

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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by zaarn on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @05:28AM (#27274728)
From a cold logical perspective, it would be advantagous to have many mates you share with others, that all take care of any offspring, since then even in the event of the death of the biological parents, the social parents can continue care for the offspring. Redundancies and failsafes are better if you have more.
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Re:HIV mRNA Vaccines-Progress and Future Paths by jinjin2 on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @03:37AM (#27273988)
Even for pair-bonded species, DNA testing has repeatedly found offspring to have fathers different from the mate.

So maybe natures optimal path is closer to pair-bonding + promiscuity, rather than either on their own?

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