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Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by alkonaut on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:03AM (#27262997)
That's not an exhibit of how this isn't state sponsored hijacking. That's a poor attempt at whataboutism, that has surfaced several times in ALL the threads on this topic.

There are several reasons that wasn't even remotely comparable, and the most obvious one is that that was diplomacy (the US closing airspaces and thereby giving the plane no choice but to land).

That kind of power is wielded by the US becuase it's a powerful global power AND because it has good diplimatic relations with the countries in question (France, Spain etc).

The pilot in the linked incident had to request to land (And could have returned to the starting airport but chose the closest, perhaps hoping to continue).

In the lukashenko incident, there were agents on board the plane. The emergency diversion wasn't to the nearest airport, but to the more distant Minsk. It's a hijacking. The bolivian case was not. No matter how shady the purposes were of the US trying to force the plane down, it doesn't chanhge that. They have every right to ASK their allies Spain and France to close their airspace for the Bolivian presidents' aircraft. Spain and France had every right to refuse (Of course knowing that their diplomatic relations with the US could take a hit).

Stop making this silly comparison please.

Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by throwaway21_ on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:17AM (#27263088)
Don't be silly - Belarus is a sovereign state, they control their airspace and they had every right to land that plane down. Assange made US looked stupid in that incident while Lukashenko made Protasevich looked stupid yesterday.

btw nobody sane is believing that US wouldn't force to land plane flying over US with Snowden in it - but Snowden isn't that stupid I guess.

Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by KeNE3zuF on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:34AM (#27263170)
This is about might, not right. Both the US and Belarusian governments are obviously able and willing to kidnap people, that doesn't mean they have that right.

Sovereignty is likewise about might and not right. They are sovereign because they can do things like this. Anyone who can reliably do things like this in given area is sovereign, but that doesn't mean that anyone has the right to do things like this. Might does not make right.

Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by throwaway21_ on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:03AM (#27263856)
A said 'right' in the sense that they are free to do it like any other state - Lukashenko isn't nice guy at all but he didn't do anything unusual here - shooting that plane down would be extraordinary, but forcing it to land isn't significantly different than crap that was brought down on Assange or Snowden.
Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by alkonaut on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:50AM (#27263264)
I'm not saying either instance was right - I'm saying they are quite different kinds of wrong.

The Snowden story is plausible - but it's still hypothetical. And of course the same international community (of US allies) that would resist extraditing Snowden today, would protest if the US forced a plane between two other countries and full of their citizens to land in the US.

All that aside: the focus shouldn't be taken away from the fact that the real crime is arresting an opposition journalist/activist.

Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by throwaway21_ on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:11AM (#27263937)
US allies kept CIA black sites on their territory without raising a voice (I guess they were very happy to prove their usefulness to the big boss), I certainly doubt they would protest for landing a plane for a few hours.
Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by ipaddr on Monday May 24, 2021 @09:14AM (#27263959)
They both are hijacking using your definition.

Neither were in my opinion.

In both states used the powers they had to force a plane to land. Very wrong on both cases. In both cases they had the right.

Re:O'Leary: Forced landing in Belarus was 'state-sponsored h... by relativ575 on Monday May 24, 2021 @10:18AM (#27264643)
Don't try to muddle the water. Morales wasn't a hijack because they were notified before they got to the denied airspace. They were free to pick another route, or come back to Russia. They weren't in danger.

Ryanair flight was coerced to land in Minsk. They didn't have a choice, the passengers were put in the harm way.

Both incident is political motivated. One is legal and safe (but a dick move). The other is brazen and dangerous.