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Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Monday July 04, 2011 @01:38AM (#2725506)
Because uranium is cheap, so why bother? The price of nuclear energy is dominated by the cost of building the reactor, not the fuel.
Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by KeithMajhor on Monday July 04, 2011 @07:47AM (#2726244)
Did you watch the video?

The reactors he presented appeared to be much simpler (so... they'd likely be cheaper).

Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Monday July 04, 2011 @10:24AM (#2726598)
As a nuclear engineer, I doubt it.
Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by ingeborgsjon on Monday July 04, 2011 @12:34PM (#2726953)
Sorry to say this but you have probably been deceived by the nuclear industry. First of all thorium is much cheaper (about 160 times I think), secondly it's far more abundant and third LFTR has a much better design.

The industry dismissed liquid reactors because of the problem extracting weapon grade material. Uranium based reactors where not as safe nor as cheap. During the cold war this made sense but not today.

It has also been about people protection their jobs. The uranium based industry can't say that something else is better because then they might lose their jobs. And who do you think the politicians ask when they want advice?

Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Tuesday July 05, 2011 @03:17AM (#2728964)
Sorry to say this but you have probably been deceived by the nuclear industry.

Or perhaps you've been swept up by the breathless prose of popular science articles?

As far from peak uranium as we appear to be, there is simply no need to explore alternative fuel sources. Fuel is not scarce. The capital (political and financial) to build infrastructure - both power plants and reprocessing plants - is.

In that climate, the (never-been-built-or-licensed) LFTR is only a game-changer if its construction (and licensing and R&D) costs are an order of magnitude lower than those of current-gen reactors. This I highly doubt.

Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by regomodo on Monday July 04, 2011 @07:36AM (#2726220)
Waste disposal/processing isn't cheap and Thorium produces significantly less waste than Uranium.
Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Monday July 04, 2011 @10:23AM (#2726597)
Thorium waste will be indistinguishable from Uranium waste for the next 100 years, from a public policy perspective, unless we first build a reprocessing plant.

(To be more specific, it's the absence of nuclides with mass number greater than 238 in Thorium waste that makes it less problematic than Uranium waste. These nuclides dominate the long-time, i.e. millenium, radiation profile of the waste. The short-time, i.e. decade/century, radiation profile of the waste is dominated by lower-mass-number fission products, abundant in both types of waste)

Reprocessing plants are extraordinarily expensive to build and operate, more so even than reactors themselves.

Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by lloeki on Monday July 04, 2011 @08:10AM (#2726284)
And thorium is bound to be even cheaper, as it's readily available in massive quantities.
Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Monday July 04, 2011 @10:17AM (#2726581)
Like I said, the cost of fuel doesn't matter. Fuel could be free, and a new reactor would still take forever to pay for itself.
Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by ingeborgsjon on Monday July 04, 2011 @12:36PM (#2726963)
But if you look at the design you will see that it's much more simple than a PWR. All calculations I've seen puts the cost of construction well below the cost of modern PWRs.

And the cost of fuel is still important, uranium isn't getting cheaper.

Re:Thorium nuclear reactors: a possible solution of the ener... by neutronicus on Tuesday July 05, 2011 @03:19AM (#2728967)
> All calculations I've seen puts the cost of construction well below the cost of modern PWRs.

And what calculations are those?