HAProxy 2.4 - Hackdot

Re:HAProxy 2.4 by AdrianB1 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @02:01AM (#27252763)

Not specific to this release, but for an system architect that is taking the first look ever to the product:

- the site does not do a good job of describing the products and what they do. https://www.haproxy.com/products/haproxy-enterprise-edition/ has a download button as the start and tells nothing about the product.

- it is hard to find requirements from the first page. (https://www.haproxy.com/documentation/hapee/2-2r1/getting-st...)

- is there any a page with basic architecture of the product? Some diagrams with typical configurations.

- is there a simpler HA setup than the 3 layer one here: https://www.haproxy.com/documentation/hapee/2-2r1/high-avail... ? What is the simplest HA configuration for 2 web servers?

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by rogerdonut on Sunday May 23, 2021 @02:19AM (#27252827)

Thanks for the feedback. I've provided a few replies below but I think you have made some great points and I will share them internally.

> - the site does not do a good job of describing the products and what they do.

The page does lead off by telling you it is a software load balancer, but I agree, we can do a better job of giving more information on the product itself. Most people who pursue HAProxy Enterprise are already familiar with HAProxy. With that said, we're actually working on a complete overhaul to this page and I believe the new version will address this.

> - it is hard to find requirements from the first page.

This is just a reference point and typically organizations are working closely with a sales engineer.

> - is there a simpler HA setup than the 3 layer one here:

A simpler version is found under active/standby here [1]

[1] https://www.haproxy.com/documentation/hapee/2-2r1/high-avail...

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by AdrianB1 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:11AM (#27253838)

Thank you. Just for info, my personal experience working for a very big American company is that every time I call a product company for information, I get intensely called back months in a row even if the product does not meet our needs, so I prefer not to do that anymore and to dig myself for info until I figure if that is looking very promising. Maybe it is not the same in your case, but who acts assuming it's an exception?

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by NDizzle on Sunday May 23, 2021 @10:07AM (#27255089)

How did you get a system architect title while somehow never looking at haproxy in the last.... 15 years?!

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by NDizzle on Sunday May 23, 2021 @10:10AM (#27255104)

Downvote me all you want but “architects” need to look at the solution landscape at least once in 15 years.

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by detaro on Sunday May 23, 2021 @10:16AM (#27255140)

Plenty areas of software where HAProxy is not part of the relevant "solution landscape".

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by NDizzle on Sunday May 23, 2021 @04:45PM (#27258439)

Systems architect?! I want a load balancer. What’s your top 5 excluding HAProxy?

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Re:HAProxy 2.4 by AdrianB1 on Monday May 24, 2021 @03:01PM (#27268384)

You don't need 5, especially when the load balancing is part of the network or infrastructure team that are a different group. Some companies have hardware load balancers, some use products like VMWare NSX or both, depending on the needs. When you are a Windows shop, HAProxy is not on the short list, hearing about it and actually knowing it are 2 different sides of the coin.

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