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Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by tmh88j on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:25PM (#27238755)
>My prediction is someone will go all viligante and beat/maim/kill someone, probably who is innocent. Then the app will get pulled.

That's always been their intention. Well, not to kill anyone, but to track people down. The app was originally called vigilante and Apple pulled it from the app store, so they rebranded and now we have Citizen. Maybe Apple will do it again before anything even worse happens than the recent $30k bounty on an innocent person.

Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by codyb on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:31PM (#27242334)
I tried using “Citizen” a few years back. You can only use it if you’re willing to share location data either whenever you’re using the app or all the time.

No. Maybe that’s fine by others but any app I can’t put a zip code into is deleted now.

It’s creepy and weird to ask for location data. Where are the apps that default to zip code and offer me the option to have myself tracked everywhere I go for more personalized output?

Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by qualudeheart on Saturday May 22, 2021 @03:50AM (#27244477)
We need better device virtualization tech.

With VM you could spoof a different location. Some ppl use emulators but I find them too slow usually.

Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by StavrosK on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:36AM (#27244698)
You don't need a VM for that. Hell, there are apps that'll do it with one tap. Android-only, of course.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lobocinza on Saturday May 22, 2021 @06:17AM (#27245162)
Is it easier now? Last time I tried (years) app could see location was spoofed so I had to root to spoof better and then many apps could see I was rooted and refused to run.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by StavrosK on Saturday May 22, 2021 @06:28AM (#27245213)
Hmm, I use an app called "Fake GPS" which works perfectly, but I am rooted (and all apps run fine).
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lobocinza on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:17AM (#27246747)
All of my banking apps detected and refused to open in rooted envs. Maybe that changed.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by StavrosK on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:33AM (#27246889)
Either it changes or Magisk Hide is doing a good job. I don't know about your specific bank, though.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lobocinza on Saturday May 22, 2021 @11:48AM (#27247630)
Magisk Hide probably.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by fragileone on Saturday May 22, 2021 @08:37AM (#27245914)
Download "Fake Traveler" from F-Droid, set it as your "mock location app" in Android Developer options. No need to be rooted.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lobocinza on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:24AM (#27246819)
Thanks! I will give it a try. For context I was playing Pokemon Go at the time and that may be why it was harder.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by njharman on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:12AM (#27255502)
It's useful for governments to have access (via supeana of course) to history of their citizens location. In case they start getting uppity. Just makes it easier to intimidate, suppress, and oppress.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by fragileone on Saturday May 22, 2021 @08:39AM (#27245926)
Android 12 will have the option on the user side to give precise or approximate location data, which should be sufficient for privacy.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by vageli on Saturday May 22, 2021 @01:28PM (#27248577)
We should have the ability to supply arbitrary sensor data by default. It is my phone in my pocket, after all.
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by YeBanKo on Saturday May 22, 2021 @12:05AM (#27243339)
Maybe they pull it again if people start reporting it.