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Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by s1artibartfast on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:34PM (#27238046)
Hard to tell anything definitive from the reported numbers. It could be that people have given up on reporting property crime. This has been my experience. I know of about 20 car and home break ins in the last few years, none of which have been reported.
Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by Zircom on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:46PM (#27238200)
I definitely think lack of reporting is at least partially to blame. It's even become an extremely common trope for cop/law enforcement in shows to have jokes and bits that riff off how useless they are with preventing and solving property and theft/robbery crimes.

Anecdotally I had my bike stolen a few months ago and last year my car was broken into and my laptop/dashcam/wallet stolen, and didn't call the cops because as you said I know exactly how useless they are for that kind of stuff.

Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by malandrew on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:52PM (#27238285)
well part of the problem, in Seattle at least, is that even when they do catch the people responsible, the DA is pressured by the city council and mayors office to generally release people who go on to re-offend. I have friends on the police force in Seattle and they lament that there is no point in arresting certain people for property crime because they just get released. It just becomes a waste of their time with the paperwork and showing up to court for nothing to come of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw

Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by wearywanderer on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:20PM (#27238674)
> the DA is pressured by the city council and mayors office

I don't understand this; the King County Prosecuting Attorney was elected, just as the mayor and city council were. Why should any of them be able to pressure the others when they're all 'hired' by the people, not each other? And if the people of King County elect ideologically compromised mayors and city councils, isn't it likely they elect politically compromised DAs too?

I do believe crime is under-reported in this city because it goes unpunished. But I'm just not buying this "DAs as victims" narrative. I think they're as much to blame as the other elected officials.

Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by majormajor on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:47PM (#27238213)
Let's work from this as an assumption for now.

Next step: Hard to tell if people gave up on reporting stuff because they don't think the police will try or because the police are unable to solve most of the incidents even if they did try.

Seriously though, how are the police supposed to solve most random break-in smash-and-grabs or stolen bike cases? What's the ask here? Constant surveillance of everywhere? Something close-to but less than that? Batman?

Re:Citizen CEO offered to personally fund LA arson manhunt f... by s1artibartfast on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:58PM (#27238383)
I’m not saying that they can, or even should.

I’m simply making the point that property crime may not be going down.

Perhaps people have a valid concern about crime independent of trends that Spurs a desire for these types of services.

Maybe this isn’t the solution, but I think it is unfair to call people batshit because they are tired or scared of having their property broken into, even if it is less than the 90’s