Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by SllX on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:34PM
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We have have that every two years: it’s called elections.
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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by why55 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:45PM
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Half of the country is pissed no matter who wins. Imagine being born married and no option for divorce.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by srswtf123 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:54PM
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If every state is gerrymandered beyond all sanity, are any of our elections valid?
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by DFHippie on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:25PM
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Elections for senators and governors are, or at least are more valid: no electoral college and no gerrymandering of districts. Of course, vote suppression is still there, and simply lying, but it's an improvement.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by not2b on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:32PM
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Governors, yes. Senators: Wyoming gets 2 (500k people), California gets 2 (40M people). Rural people are hugely represented. Statehood for DC would help a bit with the rural/urban imbalance.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by DFHippie on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:18PM
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Also, not all states are equally gerrymandered. Vermont and Wyoming each have a single representative, so they have no electoral boundaries to manipulate. And California uses a non-partisan electoral commission to adjust electoral boundaries. In states where redistricting is still a partisan process it is not all equally shameless.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by throwaway0a5e on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:48PM
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States are typically gerrymandered on the state representation (state legislature) level as well as with federal congressional districts.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by rootusrootus on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:40PM
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I'm guessing it would be less intrusive to adjust the district boundary process to try and reduce gerrymandering. And perhaps adjusting the voting process to something more reflective of values than first-past-the-post.
Redrawing state boundaries is a much bigger deal.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by SllX on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:17PM
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I suppose they wouldn’t be if your entire electoral profit and loss statement comes down to one seat in the goddamned House of Representatives and we are all slaves to lines on a map because those lines, those lines are destiny.
But srswtf123, seriously, wtf? You tell me how many offices you were asked to fill in the last ballot you filled out and how many completely asinine laws you were asked to vote yes or no on. Constitutional amendments are two points if you got any of those on your ballot. In my neck of the woods, the locals love sticking complete crap in our constitution to keep it outside the reach of State courts.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater...
by seanmcdirmid on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:29PM
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MA few states don’t practice gerrymandering; eg Washington and California both use non partisan or bi-partisan redistricting committees (so legislative majorities don’t matter).