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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by BobbyJo on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:41PM (#27227709)
Reagan is not 'the right'. He's a member of the Republican party who served 50 years ago. And again, universal health care only saves money if you start with the basis that the government will force private companies to take on customers that can't pay for service, something that is very much not a right wing ideology.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea or a good idea, I'm just saying there is no basis for universal healthcare that doesn't start with 'we need to help people'. Same with social security. Same with many other left wing policies. A lot of the problems around market inefficiency in healthcare are perfectly solvable without helping the poor.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by ABeeSea on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:47PM (#27227787)
> if you start with the basis that the government will force private companies to take on customers that can't pay for service,

EMTALA already does this and I don’t see a push on the right to repeal EMTALA. Universal healthcare is a more efficient model of what is already happening.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by BobbyJo on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:50PM (#27227826)
I also don't see a push from republicans to repeal social security. That doesn't mean it isn't a socialist policy.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by DFHippie on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:14PM (#27228090)
Here:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-the-2005-social-secur...

It wasn't sold as a push to repeal Social Security, because that polls extremely badly, but that's what it was.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by rmah on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:33PM (#27228275)
Repealing social security has been a wink-wink, nudge-nudge part of the unspoken Republican platform since social security was created.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by ABeeSea on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:56PM (#27227915)
Are you saying EMTALA (people not left to die on the street) is socialism? I don’t think that meets the definition of socialism.
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by BobbyJo on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:53PM (#27228454)
No, I'm saying something being supported (or at least not repealed) by republicans doesn't make it ideologically right wing. Republicans, like democrats, have a wide variety of beliefs in their platforms, both right and left.