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Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by nexuist on Thursday May 20, 2021 @12:42AM (#27217452)
Why have HTML email in the first place? No other messaging client lets you send entire HTML documents as messages. Just send me some words and a link to click on in a proper browser. The fact that HTML email is so bloated and a nightmare to eyeballs eveywhere is (IMO) a huge reason why conversations (even professional ones) shifted over to Slack, SMS, WhatsApp, FB Messenger, etc. I want a place to talk to people, not to shitty template engines. But if you're going to automate my conversation, use words, not posters.
Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by SilverRed on Thursday May 20, 2021 @01:31AM (#27217771)
You're comment made me think about why we actually use slack/IM when email is just as capable and I think the answer is that I can have notifications turned on for IM and I can't do that for email. Which means I respond much slower to email.

IM is one of the last places on the internet not filled with automated crap, advertisers and spam. And to be fair, some of that automated crap I actually want and browse through at a later time but IM explicitly separates real time messages and newsletters.

Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by tofukid on Thursday May 20, 2021 @02:22AM (#27218019)
Email supports instant notifications, via your provider’s app or IMAP IDLE. I use Fastmail and get push notifications for email the instant it is received.
Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by SilverRed on Thursday May 20, 2021 @02:23AM (#27218024)
The point is if I turned on instant notifications I would go insane because they would never stop. I receive lots of emails and a lot of them are not very important or at least not urgent. While every IM I receive is something I at least want to glance at now.
Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by selfhoster11 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:06AM (#27219322)
That point, frankly, applies to some Slack workspaces too. Some of them just have too many notifications to keep track of.
Re:Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022 by tofukid on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:51AM (#27233983)
Email notifications are flexible. I can choose to receive notifications only from contacts, search terms, or specific people.