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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by flyinghamster on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:24PM (#27214020)
More to the point, .chat is one of those latecomer TLDs that is thoroughly abused by spammers. If they send email and they want it delivered, they're going to have a great time with that, unless they have a .net or something they can use.
Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by Arnavion on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:34PM (#27214132)
>If they send email and they want it delivered, they're going to have a great time with that,

Your sass is unnecessary. Their nickserv registration email was delivered to gmail just fine.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by thaumaturgy on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @05:00PM (#27214398)
Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all email is Gmail and Gmail is all email.

Even if Gmail is currently delivering the messages (for now...), other service providers have to manage spam in their own way, and TLDs are sometimes a really strong signal for message reputation. For example, 99% of email traffic from .info addresses is spam, and the other 1% is mostly spam too.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by Arnavion on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:41PM (#27215808)
I don't confuse email with gmail, thank you very much. I gave gmail as an example specifically because a) that's what I used, and b) gmail like all other big providers is anal about accepting email and quick on the trigger-finger about marking it as spam even when it does.
Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by tablespoon on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:56PM (#27216217)
> Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all email is Gmail and Gmail is all email.

Even major services. I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address.

Luckly it turns out you don't need an account to order, and I was able to use my custom domain for an unregistered checkout.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by culturestate on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @11:41PM (#27217119)
> I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address.

This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses?

I've noticed that some sites will specifically ban public domains from throwaway services like mailinator, but I can't recall having encountered a blanket tld ban.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by tablespoon on Thursday May 20, 2021 @04:12PM (#27226548)
> This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses?

I wasn't using a weird TLD. It was a .us that only my family uses.

I didn't try too hard to get it to work, or figure out exactly what their criteria were, but I kept getting blocked until I used my old gmail. Their customer support wasn't very helpful, either.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by culturestate on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:01PM (#27229369)
Interesting. Out of curiosity, I just tried to register with one of my personal .us domains (g suite) and one of my work .com domains (fastmail) and both worked fine. Maybe they changed their validation after you submitted your case!
Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by brokenintuition on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:19AM (#27233628)
I thought I ran into the same issue with another site a few weeks ago, turns out I was just misspelling my domain name and their validation was checking that they could actually get an email to that domain.
Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by mfkp on Thursday May 20, 2021 @01:37AM (#27217812)
Nickserv registration went to my spam folder on Protonmail, as a datapoint.
Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by outworlder on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @06:17PM (#27215247)
We have advanced a lot since the age of spamassassin. They will be fine.

My nickserv registration worked fine btw.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by withinrafael on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:11PM (#27215956)
My nickserv email was indeed marked as spam. Outlook.com backend.

But most of the good stuff gets marked these days despite spf/dkim so I'm not particularly shocked.

Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by efreak on Thursday May 20, 2021 @03:05PM (#27225635)
I have considered removing SPF rules on my personal domain, as every time someone spoofs my donation to attack corporate emails, their antivirus will incorrectly bounce them all back, at which point they end up in my inbox due to my catch-all; they will then send me a dozen emails complaining about it. The only servers allowed by my SPF is Gmail and one of my personal servers (I usually I use ssmtp, but that doesn't help with software that directly speaks SMTP)