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Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by heavyset_go on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:36PM (#27213387)
> For YouTube, the _right_ thing to do is to pay for the premium option which removes ads.

Even if you pay for premium, you'll still get sponsored ads in the content.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by namdnay on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:43PM (#27213482)
Yeah and when you pay for a cinema ticket you still have to see the actors drinking conveniently angled cans of coke
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by heavyset_go on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:49PM (#27213570)
There's a difference between product placement and intrusive ads that interrupt content for minutes at a time. YouTube Premium customers paid to get rid of the latter.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by paxys on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:15PM (#27213900)
YouTube Premium customers paid to get rid of ads placed by YouTube. A simple solution for channels that embed ads in their videos themselves (or have any other kind of content that you don't like for any reason) is to simply unsubscribe.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by Dah00n on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @05:49PM (#27214959)
Yes but that is like not visiting a site after you found out it uses tracking or like peeing in your pants for warmth. It only work if you never see videos you haven't already subscribed to beforehand.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by throwaway3699 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:49PM (#27213573)
All of that started because people were ad blocking in the first place. More competition and less eyeballs meant CPMs have been crashing for decades now.

Sure, you can do it (piracy is okay too) but let the creators support themselves somehow.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by patrickyeon on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:42PM (#27213475)
No ad blocking is going to get rid of that though, until you run something analyzing the actual video/audio content and not just the source of streams or how they're loaded.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by phantom784 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:48PM (#27213565)
There's an extension called SponsorBlock that does exactly that. It uses user-submitted timestamps.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by heavyset_go on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:47PM (#27213537)
This exists and was posted on HN recently[1]. If an extension developer can detect when sponsored ads play on YouTube, so could Google.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26886275

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by ziml77 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:58PM (#27213693)
SponsorBlock doesn't detect sponsored segments. Users mark the segments and submit them to a database.

If Google did try to automate it, you can be sure that people would just move to integrating the sponsorship into the content. Those are the worst kind of videos and I don't want to encourage more of them.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by twobitshifter on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @06:15PM (#27215228)
There are some programs/videos that are only available on premium and do not include sponsored content.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by wooger on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:41AM (#27219860)
There are? Name some.

I know Cobra Kai started out that way, but has now been solved off to Youtube as they abandoned that model.

They certainly don't mention exclusive content as a region to pay for Premium.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by falcolas on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:40PM (#27213439)
That's on the creator, and no ad blocker will stop sponsored content.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by Dah00n on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @05:51PM (#27214980)
SponsorBlock will. It does require someone to flag the ads first though but so does most ads on adblocker lists.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by heavyset_go on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:45PM (#27213504)
Google could certainly detect when sponsored ads start in YouTube content and skip them to honor their "no ads" agreement with YouTube Premium customers.

That, or they could pay content creators fairly so that they don't have to shill for NordVPN in every video they release.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by falcolas on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:48PM (#27213559)
I'm not confident any automated system could properly detect a sponsored segment. Some creators are quite sly with how they're worked in.

> pay content creators fairly so that they don't have to shill for NordVPN in every video they release.

I'm with you on that.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by heavyset_go on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:50PM (#27213586)
> I'm not confident any automated system could properly detect a sponsored segment. Some creators are quite sly with how they're worked in.

SponsorBlock does it, and Google could make it part of their policy for content creators to mark sponsored ad segments in their videos so that they can be skipped.