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Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by spoonjim on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:13PM (#27169802)
Thankfully so far these reckless sociopaths have only done self-owns. Tesla is in for a reckoning when an innocent gets killed.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by creato on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:41PM (#27169956)
In this case:

> Another man was seriously injured when the electric vehicle hit him as he was helping the truck driver out of the wreck.

Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by FnControlOption on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:51PM (#27170004)
AI has gotten really good but will it ever develop the necessary imagination to be able to handle all edge cases? If we ever do reach that point, we should require all cars to be AI-driven only so that bad drivers don’t injure themselves or others when they get into these kinds of situations. Until then, something needs to be done before too many people kill themselves by thinking that autonomous cars are more capable than they actually are.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by pcbro141 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @08:03PM (#27170072)
If Tesla used Lidar for their emergency braking I doubt they'd be driving straight into stationary objects. But Elon is adamantly against Lidar and wants vision only.

Then again, other car companies have emergency braking without Lidar (just radar/camera like Tesla) that doesn't seem to crash into stationary objects, so it sounds like Tesla's software is just not as good at emergency braking.

Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by jjeaff on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:59PM (#27170042)
I'm sure it will never be perfect. But i think at the very, very least, we should be well passed the point of never hitting heavy, stationary objects in the middle of the road assuming sufficient stopping distance.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by wavegeek on Saturday May 15, 2021 @08:04PM (#27170084)
This is poor quality thinking.

The problem is that the AI is held to an impossible standard of near perfection, yet we happily accept that human drivers kill themselves and others in droves.

The right question is whether self driving is better than the human driver.

Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by batch12 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:40PM (#27169952)
Not sure I fully follow your comment. Who is the reckless sociopath here?
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by sigzero on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:43PM (#27169962)
I am sure he means the driver.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by spoonjim on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:48PM (#27169984)
Elon Musk plus the drivers who do things like sit in the backseat or go to sleep.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by 8note on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:43PM (#27169966)
I'd guess Elon Musk and Tesla stock owners.

Tesla has sold people on these cars being self driving, and this is the natural consequence of that sales pitch

Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by space_rock on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:44PM (#27169969)
Let's keep things in perspective. Even tho it's reckless and illegal the accident rate is less than a human driver. I'd spend my engery on people looking at their phones and driving

"we registered one accident for every 4.19 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 2.05 million miles driven."

Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by davidcbc on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:53PM (#27170012)
Tesla is a master of framing. The miles driving without Autopilot includes situations where you can't use Autopilot anyway. The fair comparison would be times when Autopilot could be used but isn't vs Autopilot being used.
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by jjeaff on Saturday May 15, 2021 @08:04PM (#27170077)
Ya, my immediate thought upon reading that was, you could rewrite that sentence to say: "There were fewer accidents while the autopilot did the easy stuff than when humans were doing all the difficult stuff."
Re:Tesla crash driver posted videos of himself riding withou... by cinntaile on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:53PM (#27170014)
We don't actually know if it's more safe since most of those 4.19 million miles will be driven by people paying somewhat attention while being driven by the autopilot. Not by the type of person reading a newspaper in the back while the autopilot is doing its thing.