As someone born after WW2, in Germany, I'm pretty glad that people back then didn't think like you. What's the point of defending democracy if there is nothing but a radioactive wasteland in which to set up free elections?

Telling your rival "I have a weapon but I am never going to use it" is about as useful as not having the weapon at all. Portraying yourself as an irrational actor willing to do anything to get your way is rational when you consider it's in response to China saying theyre willing to invade an island no matter the consequences. If that were true they wouldve invaded already. Both superpowers are bluffing.

I thought generally you tell your rivals that you only use your nukes when they use their nukes first.

And just to be clear.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hancock

Is an ancestor. He traded in slaves. He renounced it later. The 3/5 compromise was wrong.

620K people, 2% of the population died in the US civil war. Yet today we have George Floyd.

200 years ago you could argue shades of grey, but in 2021 you cannot not.

I stand for Taiwan because today in 2021 I know better, as should everyone.

What the hell... No, you don't destroy the human race because you don't like a form of government, that's just insane.

And the Allies did destroy Nazi Germany, what the hell are you talking about. Maybe you wanted to say should've moved on to destroy the Soviet Union?

No I was clear. The US should have stopped Hitler at the start of 1939 but we waited until Pearl Harbor to get involved. It was a clear moral failing on our part. As to the USSR, the western powers were willing to risk the planet to stop them in the Cold War and I am not saying anything different here about China. If the USSR had invaded West Germany there would have been war. I am saying if China invades Taiwan it should be treated the same way. Are you saying that NATO should not have defended West Germany in the event of an invasion by the USSR because it risk the end of the human race? Tell me where do you draw the line? It was clear when it was Europe to most people yet some people seem to have an issue when the same logic is applied to non-Europeans of Taiwan.

Democracy is worth defending even at the risk to the human race. We as a race are not worth our own existence if we do not understand that.

fuck china accounts or usa accounts. i myself never downvote a comment.

you just broke all the rules of hackernews yet no mod here to flag/shadowban/warn you, how fair. you also discarded the entire human race based on your distorted ideas on good/bad yet here you are visible to all eyes.

This entire thread is about politics. First comments where about China threat to Taiwan. Second was about how Taiwan should not move fabs because keeping resources in Taiwan helps ensure US protection. Then there are people bashing on the EU (as why would you put fans there), the China Belt & Road, comments on Trump, etc. It is the nature of a thread like this on this topic. While you may not enjoy the nature of the discussion, the topic of how China handles Taiwan and the western reaction is a valid topic when talking about TSMC.

Don't listen to the downvoters dude. If we are going to have WW3, it should be to prevent dystopian hegemonic communist china. It'll suck dying in nuclear holocaust but it'll feel good in those last moments knowing that we prevented something worse. Sometimes life isn't worth living anymore, and hegemonic eternal china is an example of value to life going below zero...

>a war game that started with a Chinese biological attack

That's a big asterisk. Biological warfare so far is the stuff of doomsday prognosticators. China isn't crazy enough to use biological weapons because they know we might (possibly even should) consider that a nuclear-level escalation.

And if they did use biological weapons, we might lose Taiwan, but we certainly wouldn't stop fighting. That kind of monstrosity cannot and will not go unanswered.

If you Google "Taiwan hard to invade" or the like you will get more educated reads on this. The necessary preparations on the Chinese part are well seen on satellites. China would 100% win at a bloody cost without a US involvement. With, they would loose. This is today, without China coming to be on level with the US military. Over time they will catch up. Today with US involvement China would loose. The facts on the ground prove this, otherwise why have they not done it yet?

"Carefully compare the opposing army with your own, so that you may know where strength is superabundant and where it is deficient." Sun Tzu

no, they can't win.... it is 500 miles of distance, and you need total dominance to get your troops there, and maintain and supply an invasion fleet.

Hitler couldn't cross the 50 miles english channel back in 1940.... the operation 'sea lion' was doomed to fail. Even the Allies' normandy invasion, was hard and it took total sea and air dominance. China could surround Taiwan and blockade it, but it can't keep that blockaded is itself it would be blockaded by the US and totally sealed internationally. It will be starved economically.

Also, keep in mind, during the cold war, USSR had to give up the sealing/blocading of Berlin, as the US kept supplying it with food via air. The US could have given it away, as it was far from the West's border, but it didn't.

The US will do the same this time, as the public from both sides of the political spectrum, are very against CCP. The only people that string along with China, are some elite media companies like Disney, NBA and of course Apple.

The average Joe doesn't like that their job went to china, and they would be glad if the US put up a fight.