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Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by pmcollins on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:10PM (#27160230)
why not give the suspect a choice? would you prefer your mugshot be published online, google-able for years, or would you rather not, and risk getting ‘disappeared’ by your local police dept without a trace. i know which one i’d choose.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by gnull on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:45PM (#27160467)
How do you verify that the convict made the choice, and that they weren't forced to or tortured?

This is a good reason to make it mandatory to publish mugshots.

You can make mugshots visible only to some trusted list of human right activist organizations. This is kind of a compromise between convict's safety and privacy.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by andyroid on Friday May 14, 2021 @09:21PM (#27161414)
> This is a good reason to make it mandatory to publish mugshots.

Is it really though? Doesn’t seem like a necessary practice anywhere else in the world.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by HighPlainsDrftr on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:15PM (#27160659)
I don't think this is as easy as we would like it to be.

If they are posting mugshots online, maybe they should also be required to post all police interaction's with the public online (including bodycam footage, etc).

Or maybe none of it should be posted online, and if you are interested in it, you have to go to the courthouse and get the record.

I think the problem really is deeper than that. I think all government actions should be public within a reasonable time.

Now we have to define reasonable time. Ughh.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by ma2rten on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:17PM (#27161690)
That’s already the case. You can file a foia request.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by banannaise on Monday May 17, 2021 @10:43AM (#27183994)
I'm late to the party, but PDs frequently reject FOIA requests with the justification that there is an "ongoing investigation", particularly in the case of activists (since their ongoing activism is apparently considered justification for indefinite investigation).
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by cyberbanjo on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:37PM (#27160407)
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by a1369209993 on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:43PM (#27160447)
That's actually worse than either option - if the police decide to disappear you they can now claim you opted out, while if they prefer to ruin you reputation, they can subtly (or not so subtly, if they expect to get away with that) pressure you to opt in.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by boomboomsubban on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:46PM (#27160472)
That would provide no protection against being disappeared, and potentially make things more dangerous for people in that situation.

Assume police do disappear people. Opting for your record to be public would show police that you're willing to cause problems for them, making the prospect of getting rid of you more appealing. Further, if some associate of yours goes to find out what has happened to you, they can just lie and say you opted for a private record and send the person away.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by david-gpu on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:06PM (#27160600)
> Assume police do disappear people.

Then it is also easy to imagine that the same police would not take mugshots of the people they want to disappear.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by boomboomsubban on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:41PM (#27161832)
Meaning if you could prove police arrested someone and they could not produce a mugshot, something is wrong. Providing them a way to deny the mugshot without being suspicious gives them more options.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by corin_ on Saturday May 15, 2021 @06:44AM (#27164074)
Couldn't the police just take a mugshot, confirm the arrest, and say "this person was later released without charge, none of our business where they are now"?
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by boomboomsubban on Saturday May 15, 2021 @10:52AM (#27165709)
This happens, but between most people having friends/family and high profile cases having groups outside the station, this causes problems for the police. The proposed change gives them more time without needing to deal with those problems.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by alistairSH on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:01PM (#27161615)
* Assume police do disappear people. *

Chicago PD says hello.

No assumption needed. American police do disappear people, at least temporarily.

Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by R0b0t1 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:11PM (#27160632)
You can only protect people in general, not one specific person. If the police want to kill you they'll get away with it.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by boomboomsubban on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:41PM (#27161836)
Still it's better to make it harder for them.
Re:Online, mug shots are forever – some states want to chang... by CecilBDeMilles on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:44PM (#27160458)
Scariest f** to even have to talk like this.