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Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by JackFr on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:53PM (#27156503)
> I do wonder if ransomware is (in a strange way) a(n illegal) free-market response to what is perceived to be an under-valuation of tech skills - aggrieved people who can carry out attacks and gain access to deploy ransomware are likely to be able to earn more through this route, even factoring in their "risk of being caught".

Sure. In the same way the mugging people is a response to undervaluing “beating the crap out of people and taking their money” skills.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by at-fates-hands on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:14PM (#27156797)
Its been said before:

"When the system fails you, you create your own system."

Which relates to what you're saying. When clever, intelligent people are ostracized and marginalized, they then use those skills to get illegally what society has prevented them from getting legally.

At some point, the idea of getting caught doesn't even register anymore.

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by JKCalhoun on Friday May 14, 2021 @03:13PM (#27158508)
Were these people ostracized and marginalized?

If we just paid engineers more would this type of crime disappear?

Or is greed, ego, arrogance also a part of their actions?

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by at-fates-hands on Friday May 14, 2021 @04:42PM (#27159464)
>> Were these people ostracized and marginalized?

We probably will never know. A lot of hackers turn to hacking because of various reasons - some ideological, others because they felt they didn't fit in anywhere else.

>> If we just paid engineers more would this type of crime disappear?

Probably not. You cannot get rid of one type of crime by simply paying people NOT to do it. It is what is - at no time in human history has any civilization had zero crime. That's regardless of punishments and financial incentives.

>> Or is greed, ego, arrogance also a part of their actions?

I think its different things at different times. When I was hacking, it was arrogance, thinking I was smarter than others and trying to prove it. That leads to thinking you are beyond law enforcement when you get away with it (ego). If you're into it solely for financial gain, then the other two feed your greed. Get one nice payout for your ransomware and now you think its easy to do and you'll never be caught - increasing your greed to get more.

They all kind of play into each other:

arrogance: "I'll never get caught."

ego: "They'll never catch me, my ops sec is too good for law enforcement."

greed: "This was too easy, next time I'll target a bigger company for a bigger payout."

Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta... by djrogers on Saturday May 15, 2021 @11:30AM (#27166077)
> When clever, intelligent people are ostracized and marginalized, they then use those skills to get illegally what society has prevented them from getting legally

Ehh, maybe. Or maybe they’re just bored sociopaths who get thrills looking for a big score.