Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by colinmhayes on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:26AM
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Ransoms would still be paid. We just wouldn't know about it. I think it's better to allow companies to be transparent.
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Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by teruakohatu on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:35AM
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The next group will want more than $5 million, and so on. If the lottery didnt allow advertising of big wins that were made, a lot less people would buy lottery tickets.
Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by ben509 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:48AM
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No, there's a hard upper limit on ransoms; the cost of recovery.
Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by nstj on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:14PM
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What about when the cost of having the data exposed to the public is higher than that of recovery
Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by ben509 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:47PM
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Yeah, I was pushing that all under "recovery." Say it all sums to $C.
Arguably the bigger problem is you don't know that the ransomer will actually give you a valid key, but suppose you guess a likelihood P that they do.
Now you have some scenarios:
1. Don't pay. We're out $C.
2. Do pay, and get a valid key. We're out $R.
3. Do pay, and get no key. We're out $R + $C.
So the limit is at scenario 1 being equal to the combination of 2 and 3.
Set C = PR + (1-P)(R + C), and your max ransom R = CP
(You could probably work in additional costs for cleaning up even if the ransom is paid.)
Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by nstj on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:28PM
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I mean them publishing your data not you getting it back
Re:Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom
by xphos on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:22PM
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That requires you to have that kind of data. The company could have be operating legally and not have compromising stuff. The ransomware team gains nothing if a company refuses to pay and has everything to lose by hacking. If there price is to high they are taking on a lot of risk for no reason. Hacks are smart people (I find breaking the law to be a bad decision but if one does it knowing the consequences and mitigations then they aren't dumb just unethical)