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Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by SilverRed on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @07:24PM (#27136442)
But think of all the jobs and money involved in moving those trees.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by TchoBeer on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @08:07PM (#27136763)
"jobs" and "money" don't do anything for society. Junk mail is a drain on resources that doesn't produce anything useful. If the problem is that too many people are unemployed and there aren't enough jobs to go around, that shouldn't be an excuse to not put an end to an incredibly wasteful and annoying practice.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by pavel_lishin on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @08:20PM (#27136880)
I think SilverRed was being sarcastic.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by TchoBeer on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @08:51PM (#27137151)
Oops.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by CamelCaseName on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @09:39PM (#27137478)
Junk mail is "useful" because it distributes information.

It's much less effective than, say, books, because there's a lot of overhead and waste in sending junk mail to people who don't care for them.

Beyond that, it also subsidizes other mail deliveries. If mail wasn't being delivered to every address, having someone drop off a parcel just for you would be much more expensive.

Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by msla on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @11:26PM (#27138066)
> Beyond that, it also subsidizes other mail deliveries. If mail wasn't being delivered to every address, having someone drop off a parcel just for you would be much more expensive.

This is a political decision which indicts the political regime the USPS operates under.

Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by omgwtfbyobbq on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:24AM (#27138391)
Do you mean the American political system in general?
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by msla on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:52AM (#27138888)
Not entirely, just the part that refuses to fund the USPS directly.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by SilverRed on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @10:00PM (#27137614)
I'm not trying to say otherwise. I'm more pointing out that solving this problem will be hard because a lot of people depend on creating the problem.
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by maxwell on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @07:47PM (#27136629)
How does the energy usage compare to digital advertising and cloud computing?
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by Ekaros on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @08:15PM (#27136839)
One starts to wonder should we just make advertising illegal. As it seems, it is waste in both paper form and as online adds with all the tracking involved...
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:19AM (#27138686)
what's the line between advertising and protected speech?

trick question: there is no line.

Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by maxwell on Thursday May 13, 2021 @10:16AM (#27142332)
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by sio8ohPi on Thursday May 13, 2021 @05:50PM (#27147940)
The supreme court, unanimously, in Rowan v United States Post Office Department, "categorically reject[ed] the argument that a vendor has a right under the Constitution or otherwise to send unwanted material into the home of another."
Re:One person's war on junk mail (1996) by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:06PM (#27150228)
"Consequently, a mailer’s right to communicate ceased at the mailbox of an unwilling addressee."

I would be very suprised if SCOTUS would agree this ruling supports any legislative attempt to preemptively block "communication".