You can't know that, there's only one source in Gaza that can give death numbers, and that's the Palestinian "government" ( iirc their health ministry). Maybe the numbers are inflated, maybe some of the deaths are due to Hamas actions and not Israeli. Maybe.
In any case, Israel is striking Gaza, and civilians, people, including children, are dying. Is that OK for you because Hamas disregards human life, including Palestinian lives?
And like i said, Hamas have nothing else they can do besides violence. Palestinian people, living in an open air prison or as second class citizens, and being expelled for Jewish settlers, can't do anything to stop any of that. Is it any wonder some, probably the majority, support Hamas? What's their alternative? Accept Israel has won and leave their own lands for illegal resettlement? Hardly a great choice
At no point has Hamas tried diplomacy. But you’ve just shown your true colors you’re ok with Hamas indiscriminately firing on civilians bec “what else can they do” but when Israel performs targeted strikes against Hamas, and Hamas intentionally puts children in harms way it’s somehow Israel’s fault.
There was nothing illegal about the resettlement, if you don’t have legal permission to live somewhere you’re gonna get evicted eventually.
How is it illegal to restrict gatherings? We’ve been doing that for the last year plus!
For the last three months I’ve seen daily reports of violent and sometimes deadly attacks against Jews just for walking around. It’s not like one dude punching another in the back of the head (like what’s happening in NY) it’s groups of Arabs seeking out a lone Jew and then attacking him/her. This has been happening multiple times a day for the last 3 months... you’re pretty screwed up if you think that’s ok and shouldn’t warrant a response.
If Hamas wants to fight with honor, nothing is stopping them. They instead choose the cowardly route, hiding behind their wives, elderly, and children. You also need to ask yourself, what is Hamas’s goal here: their charter very clearly spells it out: “total destruction of Israel.”
Considering the way they treated Fatah when Hamas won the election I don’t think it’s too far to say that if Hamas somehow was given power over any part of Israel there would immediately be a small scale genocide.
Additionally, that article is incredibly biased, acting as if the people in Gaza have no agency, this is a dangerous and false assumption, if they don’t want Hamas using their homes as military bases they can stop them, or better yet foment an insurrection and place in power people who want peace. But of course most in Gaza don’t want peace they like trying to kill Jews for sport and are entirely fine paying with their lives when it comes to it bec they believe in the cause. The article also entirely ignores the larger context around what’s happening and strongly implies that Israel started this and is acting unfairly, when as we’ve seen in all the other recent conflicts in other parts of the world, couldn’t be further from the truth. No other military spends as much time worrying about civilian casualties as the IDF, no one else bends over backwards to warn non-combatants of impending danger, so much so that they often end up warning the terrorists as well, your hatred for Jews is showing loud and clear here and you might want to consider the double standard you hold Jews to before you reply.
Hamas doesn’t have the technological and military prowess of China that makes it nearly impossible to overthrow them, in any given month there are as many as 10 different terrorist “gangs” operating in the region. It’s entirely plausible to suggest that if people really were dissatisfied with Hamas they could fairly easily get a change of leadership.
I should have said, Palestine got nowhere with diplomacy, Israel still refuses to not illegally occupy and resettle Palestinian land, so they ended up with Hamas who at least propose something to combat Israel's, again, illegal actions.
> There was nothing illegal about the resettlement, if you don’t have legal permission to live somewhere you’re gonna get evicted eventually.
I sure hope that happens to Israeli settlers in the West Bank. According to international law, the UN, and common fucking decency Israeli settlements in illegally occupied lands ( like the West Bank) is... well illegal.
> How is it illegal to restrict gatherings? We’ve been doing that for the last year plus!
Never said it was illegal, just that it was one of the things that add fuel to the fire. Jewish festivals were allowed ( and people were crushed, so obviously there were no restrictions), but Muslim ones weren't, while Muslims are getting evicted so that their lands can be resettled by Jews. Don't you see how that might be perceived as unfair by the people living as second class citizens and/or in an open air prison? And make them want to protest? And when those protests were met with extreme violence by police, everything went even more to shit.
> if Hamas wants to fight with honor, nothing is stopping them. They instead choose the cowardly route, hiding behind their wives, elderly, and children.
Sure they can, and they'd get slaughtered. That would be very honourable of them, and then Israel can do even more whatever it wanted with Palestinian lands and people. Hamas are backed in to a corner and fighting against a much better force, and have to be asymmetric to have any chance of not failing miserably. Hamas obviously hates Israel, but seriously, remove the labels ( jew, Muslim, etc.) and think - how could they not? Did Native Americans in the US just accept for their lands to be resettled and them to be displaced and shoved in reservations? Did any other ethnic group?
I'm going to ignore your low-level ad hominem attacks. If you think anyone is the good guy in the Middle East, you either haven't being paying attention since before WWI, or are enormously biased.
> A bunch of targeted strikes that took out Hamas leadership and no one else
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/gaza-israel...
That's why what you're saying is controversial, it's factually incorrect. Israeli airstrikes this week have resulted in the death of at least 10 children. And considering all the recent violence started with Israeli actions ( expulsion and illegal resettlement, restrictions on religious gatherings around probably the holiest of Muslim religious times, and very violent responses by police when there were protests against those things), it's hard to accept your one-sided argument.
Hamas should stop indiscriminately targeting Israeli civilians, but it's not like they have much choice - what else could they possibly do? Nothing? Obviously that's not in their interests, and diplomacy has gotten them nowhere.
Israel should stop illegally occupying and settling Palestinian land, and they easily could do.
The whole situation is fucked and there's no solution in sight, the situation and leaders have to drastically change for there to be a chance of a peach long term solution.