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Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by refactor_master on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @02:10AM (#27127182)
I completely disagree. As we say with code, there’s freedom in restrictions. I, for example, don’t ever have to worry about my safety because the “freedom” of others have been curtailed on several points, and I deeply appreciate that. There’s no inherently moral good in limitless freedom. Especially because humans are far from rational agents that can reasonably act without boundaries.

If you don’t want to be vaccinated or pay your taxes, you are, on some level, a danger to society.

Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by Thorrez on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @02:15AM (#27127229)
>I, for example, don’t ever have to worry about my safety because the “freedom” of others have been curtailed on several points, and I deeply appreciate that.

Isn't is possible for someone to stab you? So in theory you could have some small degree of worry about your safety. Different people have different places they draw the line for an acceptable amount of worry vs an acceptable amount of freedom restrictions.

Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by withinboredom on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @02:20AM (#27127263)
> Isn't is possible for someone to stab you?

In (most of) the EU, it’s illegal to carry a weapon of any kind unless you have a reason to do so (ie, going hunting). You can’t even carry pepper spray.

Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by anoncake on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @04:10PM (#27134554)
Fun fact: In Germany, anti-people pepper spray is considered a weapon but anti-animal pepper spray is not. There is no difference of course, and you're allowed to use anti-animal pepper spray in self defense.
Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by Thorrez on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @06:47AM (#27128775)
Interesting. But someone could break that law. So the law doesn't stop you from being stabbed.
Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by withinboredom on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @11:00AM (#27131124)
The law doesn’t stop anything, at all. It just provides a framework for punishing people who break them.
Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by Thorrez on Thursday May 13, 2021 @10:32AM (#27142499)
Not entirely. There are people at the boarder searching some cars that come in, and searching some mail. Laws could be passed increasing those searches, and even searching everyone's house regularly. This would reduce the risk that you get shot, because some illegal guns would be found in these searches.

To take it to the extreme, the law could force you to live in a little cell locked away from everyone. This would prevent you from being stabbed by someone else (except one of the guards).

Like I said, there's a tradeoff between security and freedom.

Re:Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19 by AstralStorm on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @11:09AM (#27131250)
By most of, it's about 50/50 and a bad law, since it almost never prevents abuse. I put it alongside band on specific melee weapons.

(As opposed to gun control.)

Use of it should constitute assault, which gets turned into legitimate self defense in various situations, just as if you were hitting someone.

Some of those bans and laws are just reasons to jail or fine people and do not in particular help with safety. After all, anyone can have a knife or martial arts on them anywhere for legitimate reasons, and you better have means to defend against these.