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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by casefields on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @03:29PM (#27122420)
You see this in organ donation. Opt-in is abysmal, but it's the reverse when they switch to opt-out. I get the utilitarian reason for the change but it's ethically and morally dubious.

Informed consent is the gold standard, except when it's not.

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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by Dylan16807 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @05:27PM (#27123746)
I'm okay with consent rules being stricter for people that are alive.
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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by ghaff on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @03:59PM (#27122777)
The economist Richard Thaler (who wrote the book Nudge & won Nobel for behavioral economics work) has, I believe, actually argued against opt out in this case because defaults are so powerful next of kin will also argue there was no informed consent.
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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by shkkmo on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:35PM (#27123174)
Once we provide sufficient funding to coroners and the rules around how the human tissue procurement industry operate are fixed, I might be on board with it if it were accompanied by a big enough public awareness campaign.
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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by Tyrannosaur on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @12:11PM (#27131961)
What about the human tissue procurement industry rules needs to be fixed?
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Re:I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress by akiselev on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @05:09PM (#27123565)
> Informed consent is the gold standard, except when it's not.

You're thinking of medical research and experimentation.

In the practice of medicine the Hippocratic oath takes precedence over everything else so of course informed consent gets thrown out when there is concrete evidence that it interferes with medicine's purpose: healing people.

When's the last time someone gave informed consent while unconscious and bleeding out after a car crash or shooting? That's why we have DNRs.

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