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Re:Amazon Sidewalk by lullibrulli3 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:17AM (#27116299)
sometimes I would love to see an A/B test on HN: swap Amazon and Apple here, call it "Find my Homepod" and see the reactions.
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:27AM (#27116339)
Sure. Same reasons “Jeffrey Dahmer invited me for dinner” hits differently than “Mum invited me for dinner”.

The two companies have a different track record on privacy.

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by luma on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:04AM (#27116563)
The irony of your response is pretty thick.
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:15AM (#27116621)
You can't just swap the words without changing the analysis of what the resulting sentence means. Yes, the reaction to this is different if it's an Apple product vs. an Amazon product, because the two companies are different.
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by throwaway3699 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:06AM (#27116570)
Two identical companies, one in sheep's clothing.

I can't believe you'd compare a corporation to your mum either.

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Re:Amazon Sidewalk by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:10AM (#27116595)
> There is no inherent ethics in any of these companies.

Didn't say that. Said they had a much better track record.

AirTags launched with clear consideration to privacy issues, like a stalker dropping one in your bag. They appear to have thought this out well. The recent anti-tracking changes to iOS that Facebook is squealing about are another point in their favor for me.

Are they my friend? No. Are their interests currently better aligned with mine? It would seem so.

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by philjohn on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:57AM (#27116984)
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by quickthrower2 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:48AM (#27116907)
If by anti tracking you mean the constant permission checking and ability to say “only when app is open” etc. I applaud this.
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:55AM (#27116968)
I'm referring to the more recent iOS 14 changes, especially that it defaults to "no tracking, don't even prompt" - users have to specifically turn on a "let apps ask me" setting to even get a prompt.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27075180

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by KingOfCoders on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:56AM (#27116978)
"Said they had a much better track record."

As I've said, the track isn't important, the current market positioning is. Apple will not care about what they did in the past if their market position and positioning is changing.

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by lotsofpulp on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:18AM (#27116642)
Are you saying, currently, Apple is better for people concerned with privacy compared to the other big companies?
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by KingOfCoders on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:57AM (#27116985)
For now? Yes, because they build their market positioning on this, it's part of their branding.

If this changes they will sell all your data without a second thought.

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by lotsofpulp on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:17AM (#27117152)
Then I do not see how ceejayoz is, currently, being fooled by Apple marketing.
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by KingOfCoders on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:52AM (#27117461)
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by lotsofpulp on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @09:18AM (#27117712)
Yes, my point is you can simultaneously be aware that Apple can or will screw you in the future, but also choose to place more trust in Apple compared to Amazon at the present time.

Interesting read though, thanks for the link!

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by KingOfCoders on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:44AM (#27116438)
Why an A/B test? Everything Apple and Tesla does is brilliant, everything anyone else does is evil. Thank me later.

Putting that in the HN FAQ would prevent new users losing karma points.

Re:Amazon Sidewalk by adam0c on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:47AM (#27116451)
name one original thing apple has done that is even good, besides the original ipod? even that isn't! original
Re:Amazon Sidewalk by athrun on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @09:36AM (#27117927)
Seems challenging because we’d need to first agree on the definition of “original”, “done” and “good”.

Also, the original iPod had less space than a Nomad. Lame.