Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of money?

Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by gnomewascool on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @05:23AM (#27115959)

Are FOSS "donations" for on-going or past work, though? I'd lean towards a mixture of both.

However, by that measure the original creator should also be compensated for their past work, given that they wrote about an order of magnitude more code than the second most prolific contributor, at least in the main babel repository.[0]

(I have no way to easily measure other equally important contributions, such as shepherding other contributors, dealing with issues and PRs, so I'm ignoring them.)

[0] https://github.com/babel/babel/graphs/contributors

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by lhnz on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:08AM (#27116240)

  > I'm just going to be explicit. In 2020, Henry created 12
  > issues, commented 25 times, and created 29 pull requests.
  > This is across all Babel orgs.
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  > https://twitter.com/sebmck/status/1392053448892469250

There has been a lot of innovation within the tooling ecosytem over the last year (esbuild, vite, snowpack, bundless, swc, whatever Jarred Sumner is working on). None of this innovation is coming from Babel.

It seems like a gravy train. Open-source contributors of other projects are currently carrying the torch of uncompensated work.

If they want to get paid, they need to think about how they currently fit into the ecosystem.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by metaphor on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:31AM (#27116361)

I admittedly fail to see how that Twitter remark survives a naive sanity check[1]. What am I missing here?

[1] https://github.com/hzoo

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by sebastianmck on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:40AM (#27116414)

I explicitly state 2020. Activity picked up in March. Use GitHub search filters and it’s more apparent.

Activity graphs can be deceiving, it’s extremely easy to look busy. Actually drill down and you’ll notice a lot of the activity earlier in this year was just pull request approvals, without comment, mostly done after someone else had already approved.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by ratww on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @06:04AM (#27116218)

> dealing with issues and PRs

According to the original tweets by @sebmck there were only 25 comments in PRs by said contributor in the last year, so even that didn't happen, apparently.

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Re:Babel is used by millions, so why are we running out of m... by szatkus on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @07:11AM (#27116598)

Interesting that his contributions apparently declined when he went full-time.

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