Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by loxias on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @02:01AM
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Thank you for being better at words than me.
Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by neither_color on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:22AM
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I got the vaccine for solely practical reasons(it's becoming a requirement for international travel). Im not a hero, I didnt do it to save anybody. It has nothing to do with denying science and more to do with the fact that we can look at the same statistic and what you consider an existential threat and what I consider an existential threat are different. I still dont think accusing someone of selfishness is the proper way to go about it.
Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by bawolff on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:34PM
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> what you consider an existential threat and what I consider an existential threat are different
You're argument that not taking the vaccine is not being selfish is that the risk you are taking by forgoing the vaccine is only a threat to other people not a threat to yourself??
> Im not a hero
Obviously not. Nobody here is a hero. We're talking about an injection with extremely low risk of serious side effects, not storming the beaches of Normandy.
Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by nickthemagicman on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @08:39AM
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They're choosing to become immune naturally instead of pumping an experimental drug into his body.
If they're under 55 and healthy they're actually doing a good thing by letting people who actually need the vaccine get it.
It's arguable that actually getting the vaccine if you're healthy and young is selfish by stopping someone who needs it from getting it.
Think if all the people in India and Brazil had the vaccines the young and healthy are taking in America.
Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by selimthegrim on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @11:45AM
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Do you think India has time now for “natural immunity”?
Re:Current RNA vaccines protect against worrying coronavirus...
by nickthemagicman on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @02:08PM
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Think if all of the young people in Western countries didn't get vaccinated and we distributed those vaccines to the grandmother's in India who need them.
Those things are emergency measures, that are important, but not anywhere near as effective as vaccines are. They stop things from rapidly spiraling out of control so instead they just slowly spiral. Its a holding action, one with a pretty high cost, not a solution.
> that has been rushed through trials
They've had the same amount of safety testing as other vaccines. With the rollout, they've probably had more real world testing than many vaccines.
> So please dont call me horrible and selfish
You're taking an action that threatens the lives of other people based on fears about personal safety that don't seem based in reality (at least for the pfizer vaccine. If you want to argue that the blood clots for AZ are scary regardless of their rarity, fine by all means).
Most people use the term selfish to describe someone who puts their own well being ahead of the group even when their concerns for personal safety are valid. If their concerns are largely made up, i can't help but think the adjective fits.