Perverse Downstream Consequences of Debunking

Re:Perverse Downstream Consequences of Debunking by dang on Monday May 10, 2021 @06:06PM (#27111459)

It doesn't follow that everyone is as consistently wrong as everyone else, and I'm not saying it does. One needs to be extra careful about deriving consequences from this phenomenon too quickly, because it's so hard to see it in the first place. More precisely, it's hard to see in oneself—but to only see it in others is not to see it at all.

I think we should all practice simply seeing it for a while (I'm tempted to say 20 years might be a good minimum), and then maybe we'll be in a position to accurately derive consequences in a way that doesn't just re-establish the original self-deception.

p.s. I took out this bit of my comment above: "Or, if you prefer, we're all crazy/stupid in this way." because after reading your comment I realized it was too baity. Mentioning it that here because I don't want to deprive your post of that context.

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Re:Perverse Downstream Consequences of Debunking by cutemonster on Monday May 10, 2021 @11:09PM (#27113802)

> It doesn't follow that everyone is as consistently wrong as everyone else

When you wrote:

> If you think you don't do it, or (an easier self-deception) you don't do it as much, this is because you are lacking in self-awareness.

It sounded to me as if you said everyone was equally wrong as everyone else. Thanks for clarifying that that wasn't what you meant

I think this is incorrect: "[or if] you don't do it as much" -- some people indeed does it less (you'd be one of them I think)

> it was too baity

I agree (I think the section I quoted still is :-))

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