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Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by elcomet on Saturday May 08, 2021 @04:48PM (#27090549)
Isn't that the case for every company ? Why would a company do something in the interest of the consumer if it was not in their interest ? Competition is what's supposed to take care of this
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by osrec on Saturday May 08, 2021 @05:36PM (#27090955)
Well exactly, but they have convinced (brainwashed?) a bunch of their users that they're really on their side.

In my experience, Android users are generally not plagued by this misconception to as great an extent.

Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by adav on Saturday May 08, 2021 @06:33PM (#27091410)
There are a whole lot more Android users.
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by osrec on Saturday May 08, 2021 @06:35PM (#27091415)
But what's your point?
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by adav on Sunday May 09, 2021 @09:09AM (#27095662)
That it might not be a fair comparison.
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by osrec on Sunday May 09, 2021 @10:30AM (#27096176)
In what sense? We're comparing proportions - I think that's fair. Unless you're also saying that a higher proportion of Apple users are more gullible (in which case you agree with me), I still don't understand your point?
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by uniqueid on Saturday May 08, 2021 @07:35PM (#27091797)

  Why would a company do something in the interest 
  of the consumer if it was not in their interest
There are many reasons, but if for no other: so that emails like this don't leak and cause you bad PR! There's a whole school of thought around being 'customer focused' that boils down to the Golden Rule (but in MBA-speak). I don't know how many 'customer focused' businesses really walk the walk; probably not that many in situations where doing so requires real guts.
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by smabie on Saturday May 08, 2021 @10:37PM (#27092694)
But doesn't that mean it's ultimately in the companies interest?
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by uniqueid on Saturday May 08, 2021 @10:40PM (#27092704)
Well yes, in the long term. I was hoping nobody would notice that I avoided admitting that ;)
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by dpatterbee on Saturday May 08, 2021 @05:09PM (#27090706)
Unfortunately it's possible for competition to not resolve things to the benefit of the consumer, that's where regulation typically steps in. I'm not necessarily implying that that's required in this case, just that things aren't as simple as competition == consumer wins.
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by a1369209993 on Sunday May 09, 2021 @12:53AM (#27093322)
> Why would a company do something in the interest of the consumer if it was not in their interest ?

We call that "ethics", IIRC. It's depressingly rare.

Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by usrusr on Saturday May 08, 2021 @07:35PM (#27091795)
Yes. And they sleep well at night, moral obligation to the shareholders and all that. Competition won't do anything.
Re:Apple brass discussed disclosing 128M iPhone hack, then d... by elcomet on Sunday May 09, 2021 @07:05AM (#27095015)
At least with competition users get to choose which companies they want to do business with.