Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by Gwypaas on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:02PM
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Windows 8.1 reached end of mainstream support on January 9, 2018, over three years ago. Windows 8 support ended on January 12, 2016.
No wonder you ran into issues if you installed it and tried getting it "updated" recently.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows#windo...
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by tachyonbeam on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:10PM
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Here is a post from 2016 outlining the same problem I was describing: https://superuser.com/questions/1103966/windows-update-doesn...
There is a bug in the Windows Update client on Windows 8.1, and it can't update itself.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by pitay on Saturday May 08, 2021 @03:28PM
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Do note that Windows Update may just not offer a major update because such as Windows 10 2004 because of concerns about driver compatibility. It happened to me because Microsoft and the manufacturer of the PC didn't come to an agreement about driver compatibility. Windows update gave me warning about updating to the new Windows 10 version (to 2004 or 20H2), but there was no update for it in Windows Update, I had to download the update manually to get it installed. Also had to do that manually for a previous version as well.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by cl0ckt0wer on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:59PM
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because printer/scanners don't work with the included software, and linux has a reputation.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by tachyonbeam on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:06PM
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I guess my point was, Windows should have just as much of a reputation, given Microsoft has shipped release builds with absolutely horrible and blatant bugs (does anyone remember windows millennium?).
I did do some research before I bought my printer and found a brother that connects to wifi and works flawlessly with both Mac and Linux. I find you can also make your life much easier as a Linux user by choosing popular distributions. It's always easy to Google specific fixes for Ubuntu.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by ginko on Saturday May 08, 2021 @02:22PM
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I have an old Canon scanner that doesn't work on Windows because Canon never released a driver for anything after Windows XP. Works like a charm on Linux though.
Same experience with an old Nikon Super CoolScan negative scanner I recently bought used. It came with a Firewire PCI card. I installed the card, plugged in the scanner and it just worked.
Re:Linus Torvalds on why desktop Linux sucks (2014)
by yjftsjthsd-h on Saturday May 08, 2021 @10:20PM
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No, printers/scanners work without the manufacturer's software; if it's supported (which, I admit, is incomplete but more than you might expect), you just plug it in, tell CUPS to add a printer (which it can do seamlessly without installing extra garbage from the manufacturer), open Simple Scan (or any other SANE frontend) and off you go.
Linux was a million times more stable and much more pleasant to use as a programmer (no SDKs to download with complex installation instructions). It also had a package manager which made installs/reinstalls a breeze. You could actually write a bash script to redo your setup automatically, wow! Never looked back.
I recently installed Windows 8 on an older computer I was setting up for my mom (she didn't want Linux, understandably). It was my first time using Windows in two years or so. Windows Update was broken out of the box. It wouldn't run. You had to manually download a patch to get it to work. I don't really understand why desktop Linux gets so much hate when commercial software is this bad.