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Re:Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disable... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Friday May 07, 2021 @05:02PM (#27080830)
"I think this speaks to the power of defaults."

Even more, it speaks to the power of removing choice. When app tracking is enabled by default it effectively removes choice because most users never touch settings (and may not even know they exist). Therefore users are not choosing anything. Someone else is choosing for them. "Tech" company employees will respond to criticism of their employer's behaviour with something like: "But users can choose to turn this off." That is not relevant if 96% are unaware of this "choice". The question is: why is tracking on by default. That was a choice the user did not make.

Only when faced with a screen asking the user if she chooses to be tracked do we get a chance to find out what a user would choose. And even then, developers will use "dark patterns" to manipulate the decision-making process toward a self-serving outcome.

Perhaps we should ask ourselves whether there should even be a setting to enable tracking. If the majority of users would choose to turn it off, if they were presented with the choice, then why even have it. This is essentially "privacy by design".

This is no different than when developers argue to HN that it is not worth catering to the preferences of privacy-conscious or minimalist users since those users comprise such a small percentage of users overall. By the same token, it should not worth catering to the small percentange of users who want to be tracked.

Re:Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disable... by paledot on Saturday May 08, 2021 @01:50PM (#27089297)
Depends on the tracking, IMO. Selling data to advertisers is a hard no, but as an independent developer, having access to crash logs and usage statistics is vital. Not only is it valuable to me, it provides legitimate value to my customers because it allows me to fix problems that they are experiencing or enhance the features they use the most.

Still shouldn't be on by default, but asking up-front seems perfectly reasonable.

Re:Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disable... by Siira on Thursday May 13, 2021 @05:27AM (#27140203)
If users don’t care enough to see the options available to them, it’s on them.
Re:Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disable... by r3trohack3r on Sunday May 16, 2021 @06:22PM (#27177576)
I feel like this isn’t respecting your user’s time. I’ve converted to opting out of relationships like this where possible; it’s not healthy. I wouldn’t enter a personal relationship on these grounds, I don’t know why I’d do it for some company.

A service provider makes one decision and it impacts N users. A user consumes from M service providers. A user evaluating whether a service provider is trying to “pull one over” on them in the TOS costs M units of time, 1 unit per service provider. A service provider deciding to choose the cow path as the default saves N units of time and costs the service provider 1 unit.

I engage with service providers that respect my time. If I suspect your default is user hostile, and provide a “we won’t exploit you in this relationship” as an option, I look elsewhere.

This breaks down in places though. Example: I haven’t found a communication provider that doesn’t default to building a profile on me and selling it to anyone willing to pay.

The lack of choice for me makes me wish a governing body would intervene and give me a marketplace where I didn’t have to waste my valuable time making sure the person I was engaging with wasn’t going to pull one over on me.