Re:A Historical Perspective on COBOL (2020)
by Zababa on Friday May 07, 2021 @04:38PM
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> The "best" we have to offer today as "pure" business logic programing is some BPMN framework/platform.. and that is mostly hell of Earth..
Do cloud plateforms fall under BPMN frameworks/plateforms? From what I understand, it's possible to build applications today using cloud plateforms (AWS and Azure mostly, I don't know about the others) for auth, persistance, etc; while only writing your business logic, especially now with serverless where you only write functions.
In a way this is the return of the distinction between application and system, but the system is left to another company. This would fit with the (anecdotal) pattern I've noticed where before companies had cleaning people, IT people, etc and now everything is subcontracted to other companies.
Re:A Historical Perspective on COBOL (2020)
by pjmlp on Saturday May 08, 2021 @03:38AM
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For me the "cloud" just feels like back to UNIX proper days, just that instead of using telnet on a green phosphor terminal or an IBM X Windows terminal, I use the browser alongside a cloud shell.
Do cloud plateforms fall under BPMN frameworks/plateforms? From what I understand, it's possible to build applications today using cloud plateforms (AWS and Azure mostly, I don't know about the others) for auth, persistance, etc; while only writing your business logic, especially now with serverless where you only write functions.
In a way this is the return of the distinction between application and system, but the system is left to another company. This would fit with the (anecdotal) pattern I've noticed where before companies had cleaning people, IT people, etc and now everything is subcontracted to other companies.