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Re:Crazy New Ideas by PragmaticPulp on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:12AM (#27062045)
My hang up with Mighty isn’t about their idea or their technology or their execution. It’s impressive to see what they’ve done.

My issue is that it’s not a product I could feel good recommending to anyone, at least at the high pricing that was proposed in the last discussion. In an era of $999 M1 Macs (and even cheaper AMD laptops) and readily available financing options, it doesn’t make sense for anyone to throw their money away at a SaaS service that simply cannot perform as well as local Chrome on a modern machine.

I could see the narrow use case for limited situations where someone has

1. Weird IT department restrictions that require them to use old, slow computers but also

2. Budget rules that allow them to spend monthly money on a SaaS but not on financing the hardware they need to get their job done and

3. Guaranteed high speed internet all of the time and

4. An IT/corporate security department that is okay with them sending all of their keystrokes, login info, and browser data to a 3rd party service

Surely this situation exists, but it still feels like Mighty is targeting a broader audience by providing untrue claims about remote thin client technology somehow being faster than a halfway decent local machine. I’d feel equally uncomfortable if Stadia was charging $50/month while claiming to be lower latency than local gaming.

The counter arguments about disrespecting hard working startup founders or doubting visionaries feel like a strawman response to legitimate questions about the value of their service. The technology and execution look to be good, AFAICT. It’s the product, pricing, messaging, and value that I can’t recommend.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by pantulis on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:09AM (#27062652)
I was going to try Mighty but even in my somewhat relaxed work environment item 4 is not really solved by Mighty apart from "we will not access your data". Obviously they are very smart and will surely be working on E2E encryption but they do not seem to have it.
Re:Crazy New Ideas by IAmLiterallyAB on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:16AM (#27062731)
> E2E encryption

How on earth would that work for their product? They need to access the data so they can render it.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by nomel on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:25AM (#27064653)
Surely that could happen client side.
Re:Crazy New Ideas by tsimionescu on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:06PM (#27065312)
The whole value proposition is that the beefy remote machine is handling the rendering, isn't it? At least half the performance of a web page is wasted on DOM re-shuffling.

Not to mention, it's not like Chrome can run Javascript without looking at the data, and if they're not running Chrome, they'll start getting into compatibility issues.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by sjg007 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:28PM (#27070914)
It's endpoint security as well. All browsing goes through Mighty.
Re:Crazy New Ideas by tsimionescu on Friday May 07, 2021 @02:16AM (#27072828)
If Mighty behaves like a full replacement for a modern web browser on my system, it will have to give the web pages I visit (opt-in) access to my GPS, camera, microphone, Bluetooth, battery information, and other peripherals, I sliding all of my mouse and keyboard input. It will have to allow me to upload or download files from the web page. Also, all my tabs are running on the same remote VM, so this only protects other systems, not my banking or JIRA.

Sure, it's the ultimate sandbox for the code itself, it probably protects me perfectly from Meltdown attacks against other programs on my main system, but I don't think that's enough to call it 'endpoint security'.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by pantulis on Friday May 07, 2021 @03:42AM (#27073372)
I don't have the faintest idea, but the notion of having my session cookies and credentials stored in a VM somewhere makes me very nervous and I am not even half paranoid.

So they need to figure it out otherwise it's only valid for personal use, which is not exactly the money is, imho.

Maybe some self hosted solution for corporate departments? Or waiting for an acquision from Citrix or VMWare...

Re:Crazy New Ideas by DharmaPolice on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:24AM (#27063710)
>4. An IT/corporate security department that is okay with them sending all of their keystrokes, login info, and browser data to a 3rd party service

Or just an IT/security department that is blissfully unaware of the shenanigans that some of its users are up to. Especially if people are accessing this from outside of the corporate network to start with.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by andy_ppp on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:15AM (#27062716)
No but it makes a lot of sense for Mighty App to be the middleman between your computer and the Internet. If I was them I’d just give it away for free and sell your data to Facebook (anonymously of course!)...
Re:Crazy New Ideas by twobitshifter on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:50PM (#27066014)
RE: 4.

My company uses webmarshal which fronts requests and blocks pages deemed not good for productivity/data security. In that type of situation you already have an intermediary so mighty could make sense - make everyone use mighty and give it a custom blocklist. Obviously not a situation that employees would be a fan of, but it’s something that corporate is already doing, and mighty could improve the experience.

Re:Crazy New Ideas by mchusma on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:33AM (#27062947)
I agree with your stance. I was confused to come here and read that people thought he was referring to Mighty. I think Mighty is a pretty small, easily proven/disproven, not-crazy idea, not-that-new idea, with niche applications. To me that is a bit different than how this article reads. I think the debate is market size. The only real debate I hear with Mighty is whether it is good for <10M people worldwide or >1B people worldwide.