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Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by echelon on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:26AM (#27060874)
> the author's conclusion is more or less "no, Apple isn't trying to kill the web;

Allow non-Safari browsers (not just re-skins!) on iOS and I'll believe the author.

Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by grishka on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:17AM (#27061176)
Their rationale for not allowing other browser engines is that allowing JIT (writable AND executable memory pages, in general) would make the hell break loose.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by chj on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:34AM (#27061268)
This is an insult to their OS team. macOS appears to be working just fine.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by grishka on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:42AM (#27061311)
Well, if there is an RCE vulnerability, that would allow the user to run arbitrary code on their own device with the same permissions that the browser process has, which is clearly unacceptable in the iOS world.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by chj on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:30AM (#27062917)
I don't see how that could be acceptable in macOS world.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by grishka on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:56AM (#27064177)
On macOS you as the user already have complete and unrestricted access to your computer. You don't jailbreak your mac because it already comes with root and an unlocked bootloader. Mac apps also have much more access to the underlying system than iOS apps do, and this helps with better sandboxing, I presume.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by superjan on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:39AM (#27061299)
This was a good argument in the past, because there were very few ios exploits and apple was proactive in hunting them down, to prevent jailbreaking. Not sure if it is a valid argument today.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by black3r on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:42AM (#27061310)
JIT is already allowed on iOS since 14.2 though.
Re:Apple deletes Steve Jobs's “Thoughts on Flash” by grishka on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:42AM (#27061317)
For externally-loaded or user-supplied code as well?