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Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by fao_ on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:30AM (#27049043)
> Bleach works as surface decontamination agent. They know it works for CWD, and I expect it works for others too.

I remember reading that nothing but incineration would work in the context of Food-and-Mouth disease, but it seems modern techniques in brain surgery do use bleach. Interesting.

Essentially, the only thing that works is disintegrating the prions. You can't wash them off, since you're simply washing them into the water cycle. You can't deal with them in a way that preserves other biological matter, since they are proteins, disintegrating them means disintegrating any other proteins in that area.

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by iamthepieman on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:53AM (#27050604)
I'm missing the reference to foot and mouth disease. FMD is a viral infection and is not caused by prions.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by fao_ on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:22PM (#27051939)
IIRC at the time the BSE outbreak in the UK[1] was referred to as "foot and mouth disease" and I've heard people refer to it as that since then. I wasn't even aware they were separate things.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_BSE_outbreak

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by shkkmo on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:17PM (#27052726)
There may have been some innacurate reporting, but FMD and BSE present very differently in humans so I doubt there was deep confusion.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by sokoloff on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:20AM (#27050189)
For brain surgery, it seems like washing them off the implements and into the water cycle is still an enormous win in terms of risk.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by fao_ on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:23PM (#27051951)
I'm not sure you understand how irresponsible that is.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by NoSorryCannot on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:04PM (#27056990)
Do you understand how irresponsible it is? It might be but it's obvious. How common are prions? How many prions get into the water cycle already? Prions probably don't go through the water cycle's gas phase. Are we worried about seafood? Surely lots of prions end up in oceans and lakes already.

It sounds a bit scary but it's not clear that it would change the risk profile.

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by sokoloff on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:32PM (#27052098)
That might be. I'm not an expert.

Is it more irresponsible than not removing them prior to operating on someone's brain?

Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by fao_ on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:48PM (#27057856)
You're acting like those are the only two options available, though. That's not the case.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by ben_w on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:46AM (#27050520)
Foot-and-Mouth disease has a vaccine. I believe burning was for economic reasons: vaccination is expensive; the reproductive cycle (and by extension the population) is essentially human-controlled and the livestock population can recover quickly; and "we don't need to vaccinate" increases livestock sales.
Re:Doctors investigate mystery brain disease in Canada by markdown on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:56AM (#27049260)
Foot